It’s illegal isn’t it?

by Responsible Choice · 226 comments

Well yes and no, cannabis law in Australia is as big a mess as the one prohibition causes.

You see it’s got to do with the state not federal government. The federal government is basically concerned with import/export and customs laws. The STATE governments however are the ones concerned with enforcing their state’s respective drug laws.

So hands up if you know what your state cannabis laws are? NSW anyone? QLD? Anyone??

Good on those people who actually could say they do, and welcome to my world if you actually verbalised your answer even though the question wasn’t asked verbally…

Now let’s revisit our good friends at the NCPIC (National Cannabis Prevention and Information Centre)and see what they’ve got to say. It’s actually quite helpful.

The basic gist is this: It is illegal to use, possess, grow or sell cannabis in Australia, but the penalties for cannabis offences are different in each state and territory.

Of course they are. What sensible and well thought out drug policy based on scientific fact and harm minimisation wouldn’t have 7 different sets of consequences for the same so called offence? EXACTLY, NONE, but Australia does…

But what exactly are the differences?

Well we have to begin with the terms legalisation and decriminalisation, and of course prohibition. Prohibition simply means an order to restrain or stop, in this context it means all Australian citizens are required by law to stop or refrain from using or growing cannabis. According to the NCPIC’s Cannabis and the Law factsheet;

It is illegal to use, possess, grow or sell cannabis in Australia, but the penalties for cannabis offences are different in each state and territory.

THUS,

Some jurisdictions have decriminalised minor cannabis offences, such as the possession of a small amount of the drug for personal use. This means that the offence can be dealt with by a civil penalty, such as a fine, rather than by receiving a criminal charge. Speeding is a good example of an offence that is commonly dealt with by a civil penalty. If an offence is decriminalised, it does not mean that it is legal. Legalisation of cannabis would mean that cannabis would no longer be an illicit drug, but would be a legal drug like alcohol and tobacco.

So essentially we are talking about penalties here. Cannabis is illegal, but how much trouble you find yourself in for having it will depend on where you are. Naturally…

OK, so where is it decriminalised?

SA (South Australia) - SA has had the most relaxed of all decriminalised states for the longest of all as they were the first to institute them in 1987. The lowdown is possession of up to 100 grams of marijuana, 20 grams of hash (the resin from the cannabis plant), one non-hydroponic plant or cannabis smoking equipment leads to a fine from $50 to $150 with 60 days to pay it.

ACT (Australian Capital Territory) – I find it incredibly ironic that the state which contains our Parliament House has had the most relaxed form of our cannabis laws for the past 18 years. The lowdown is possession of up to two non-hydroponic cannabis plants, or up to 25 grams of marijuana (cannabis plant material) receives a $100 fine with 60 days to pay instead of a criminal charge. Instead of paying the fine, the person may choose to attend a drug assessment and treatment program.

NT (Northern Territory) - Next to institute decriminalisation was the NT in 1996. The lowdown is possession of up to 50 grams of marijuana, one gram of hash oil, 10 grams of hash or cannabis seed, or two non-hydroponic plants can be fined $200 with 28 days to pay rather than face criminal charge.

Cheers guys, but that raises a question in my mind, namely is that to say that in the eyes of the law if cannabis is decriminalised such offences are akin to speeding? I DISAGREE SIR!

Am I honestly supposed to believe that if you get busted with cannabis in a state where it is decriminalised people will view you the same way as someone who has been caught doing 50 over the speed limit? There is no stigma attached to speeding in our country, despite our government’s inept attempts to curb it. Drug use on the other hand carries a significant social stigma that, for some strange reason, is VERY different to speeding. The foreword from After the War on Drugs: Blueprint for Regulation by Transform Drug Policy Foundation 2009 makes an interesting and honest comment on this.

Heroin, cocaine, ecstasy, cannabis, prescription and over-the-counter medicines, alcohol, tobacco, coffee, tea – we are all people who use drugs. Our refusal to acknowledge this comes from a deep-seated fear that ‘we’ might become, or be seen as, one of ‘them’. What we really need to focus on is the difference between drug use and drug addiction or dependency. Global prohibitionist drug policy continues to focus efforts primarily on the substances alone. This is wrong.

Regardless of this, we have NSW (New South Wales), QLD (Queensland), WA (Western Australia), VIC (Victoria) and TAS (Tasmania) left as the states where cannabis possession and use is a criminal offence. HOWEVER…

It is unlikely that someone caught with a small amount of cannabis for the first time would receive a criminal conviction, because of the diversion programs that run in these states according to the NCPIC. But huh? If it’s illegal doesn’t that mean you cannot have any?

THE ANSWER IS, EVEN THOUGH IT IS ILLEGAL IN THESE FOUR STATES, IF YOU HAVE LESS THAN A CERTAIN AMOUNT YOU WON”T BE CHARGED. Logical right?

NSW – possession of up to 15 grams of cannabis in NSW may receive a ‘caution’ from the police. 2 caution limit.

QLD -  possession of up to 50 grams of cannabis and you will be offered diversion. This is the only state in which diversion must be offered to a minor cannabis offender – elsewhere, it is up to the police officers whether or not they offer diversion or charge the offender. One diversion limit.

* UPDATE: WA (Western Australia) - WA Police Minister Rob Johnson says anyone caught with more than 10 grams of cannabis will face two years jail or a $2,000 fine. He said those caught with fewer than 10 grams must attend a one-on-one counselling session. Apparently this is to be based on a similar system used in QLD (July 2011)

VIC - possession of no more than 50 grams of cannabis will receive a caution. 2 caution limit.

TAS - possession of up to 50 grams of cannabis can be given a caution up to three times in ten years.

Firstly let me say I can’t express my disappointment at the absolute irrationality and seemingly ad-hoc nature of policy that has implications for so many of our youth and their future opportunities. Mo Mowlam (1949-2005), Minister responsible for UK Drug Policy from 1999–2001, had this to say about drug policy in general:

“From my experience of being responsible for drugs policy… I came to the conclusion that legalisation and regulation of all drugs was the only way to reduce the harmful effects of this unstoppable activity.” The Guardian, 19 September 2002

She, of course, is not the only person who has this view. Simon Lenton’s Cannabis policy and the burden of proof published in the March 2000 Drug and Alcohol Review echoes the perspective that prohibition of cannabis is futile and far more harmful than cannabis use to the user. He outlines how criminal sanctions against cannabis use is a failure because it has low support from the general community because the criminal penalties (both potential and actual) can have serious and long-lasting detrimental impact, and also that more progressive policy (such as decriminalisation) does not lead to higher rates of cannabis use.

I disagree with Mr. Lenton’s presumption that regulation of cannabis cannot work in Australia because of our International Treaty Obligations. This refers to how, many moons ago, our good friends the USA basically coerced many other countries to prohibit cannabis like them because they enacted racist and sensationalist policy to further self interest in their country. The Schaffer Library of Drug Policy is a good source for further information on this topic.

ESSENTIALLY THE USA SAID “JUMP” AND WE SAID “HOW HIGH MASTER?”

I would argue the USA example is NOT the one we should be following (simple example here), and I am quite sure that the well being of millions of Australians should override any pathetic piece-of-propaganda treaty like the one known as the United Nations Single Convention on Narcotic Drugs 1961.

But that’s me. What about you?

{ 226 comments… read them below or add one }

Steve May 14, 2012 at 12:26 pm

Agreed.

Unfortunately I was busted in NSW, but I also had a few other drugs in my possession too so I was not eligible for diversion. I was naively booming towards a festival and didn’t read up on the laws. Police had sniffer dogs at a RBT site and were rummaging through everyone’s vehicles. Wound up getting some pretty nasty fines in court as well as a criminal record. It was a one off New Year’s party thing, and I have since ceased using drugs, but no matter what the record will always be there. I have Permanent Residency and am afraid to apply for citizenship in case they kick me across the globe and back to the UK. I can’t get HECS-help to go to Uni, which I was planning on doing, so I and society as a whole lose out because of a silly mistake on the way to what was meant to be one of the best times of my life. Civil liberties anyone?

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kelly January 29, 2014 at 7:30 am

I’m looking for information on the use of medical cannabis for treating symptoms of dementia – and where to find information/legislation on the use of medical cannabis for each state – any help would be great.

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skip January 29, 2014 at 8:25 pm

Hi Kelly,

First off you can find information on cannabis and dementia by google searching, I came up with a few results –

http://www.smh.com.au/national/cannabis-may-help-reverse-dementia-study-20130206-2dxsk.html

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19370677

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18286801

Just search google for “cannabis for treating dementia” there is lots of information there.

Secondly, this thread right here is as good as anywhere for the current laws of each state in Australia (or territory) regarding weed. There is currently no medical cannabis laws in Australia as far as I know, so you basically have to abide by your states laws in regard to cannabis (not that everyone does though of course)… Just head to the very top of this page to see the laws regarding cannabis for each state or territory. S.A has the bet laws so far I think.

Regards.

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Responsible Choice May 17, 2012 at 11:36 pm

Thanks for the comment Steve.

Your story is a perfect example of the harms prohibition causes, and I am very I am sorry that you and yours have been on the receiving end of our ridiculous drug laws.

Good luck mate.

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Spare me May 20, 2013 at 8:48 am

Hello all,

I suffer from a condition that creates arthritic pain and my spine and neck are fusing themselves together. Whilst I am awake, I am in varying degrees of pain . I smoke pot for pain relief. Rather than adding to my pharmaceutical intake.

Can I get a certificate from my doctor for legal use now NSW law has been amended ?
Thank you

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Skip May 20, 2013 at 10:31 pm

No sadly you can’t.

The laws in NSW have not changed at all. There laws you have possibly heard about are being ‘considered’ and have been recommended by the chairwoman of a parliamentary committee. This does not mean it will pass at all.

The laws if passed would not help you in any case as far as I can tell, as they would only be for the terminally ill (Dying people) who suffer from Aids or cancer or any other terminal illness. And they would only be allowed up to 15 grams anyway and still have to purchase the cannabis illegally. So to me these recommendations seem half assed, they should make it legal for everyone, but if it’s just to be medicinal then at least it should cover anyone in major pain (like yourself) and should also mean you can grow some yourself and posses up to say 5 ounces or something. I mean how much edibles can you make from 15 grams of cannabis? Hardly any. So in reality it is keeping people smoking it because they are only allowed up to 15 grams legally. When the best and healthiest method to use cannabis is to eat it in food, but you need alot more cannabis to make it into canna butter to make cookies and cakes etc.

Here’s a link about it -

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-05-16/legal-pot-follo/4693602

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Matt Riley May 18, 2012 at 12:27 am

Great article, important information. Thanks RC!

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Responsible Choice May 19, 2012 at 7:35 am

Cheers Matt.

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Dan February 28, 2014 at 2:23 pm

The link no longer works. Great site.

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Ryan September 2, 2012 at 12:59 am

Great article mate!
Dont get me started on how backwards and conveniently corrupt our laws are!
check this youtube video and try to stay calm about it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnFJYxCx7zk&feature=player_detailpage
Im am still trying to figure out what the current laws in SA are though (2012)?
eg, possession/cultivation penalties etc…

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Responsible Choice September 3, 2012 at 11:20 am

Hey Ryan,

This SA info is still current I believe:
The lowdown is possession of up to 100 grams of marijuana, 20 grams of hash (the resin from the cannabis plant), one non-hydroponic plant or cannabis smoking equipment leads to a fine from $50 to $150 with 60 days to pay it.

The Union is a favourite doco of ours here, we have it embedded on our homepage. The latest film in the works for these guys is ‘The Culture High’, check the little fundraiser box up on the top right of this page for the trailer.

All the best mate!

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Ryan September 5, 2012 at 11:24 am

Thanks for the clarification mate!
What are the laws on hydroponic gear? Im told that all changed recently?

Ryan

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Responsible Choice September 8, 2012 at 12:45 am

Here is a nice page from the SA Police that outlines when the Hydroponics Industry Controls Act came in to action
http://www.sapolice.sa.gov.au/sapol/services/hydroponics.jsp

It has some informative links to various pdf files on FAQ’s and legal definitions.

I hope you find what you need :)

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Ryan September 10, 2012 at 10:35 pm

Thanks again,

so it would seem if one wishes to do things efficiently and discreetly with hydro then one is automatically a MAJOR CRIMINAL??? So i am better off placing a plant outside with the risk of children or others finding it and using it. I am so sick of our pathetic laws, and I noticed on the news last night the gov is trying to crack down on club and bar owners serving alcohol to “curb the rate of alcohol fueled violence”. So the gov readily admits that booze is a huge problem everywhere, yet it remains legal and the only legal option for ourselves and the younger generations to poison ourselves with. They obviously keep alcohol around to win votes with. Christ I hate clubs and pubs and generally anything focused around alcohol for the simple fact that it creates wankers and “little man syndrome”. Like Micheal said too, have you ever heard of the police coming around to check that your only brewing beer and not selling it? Hardly.

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Aron March 8, 2014 at 5:45 pm

Could not agree more, I have been sober since my father was an abusive alcoholic, i occationally have a beer with someone, but i basically hate drunk people after watching what piles of complete excrement they become, domestic violence, car crashes, public violence, rape all can be put to at least 70% alcohol, sure that number was pulled out of a hat but tell me that does not seem like i am lowballing (alcohol, prescription drugs, mental instability or chemical drugs are the cause for all these problems not to mention that most cigarette smoking cancer patients drank the whole time making them smoke 10 fold more cigarettes) definitely nothing to do with weed, i have met 1 in 100 people ever that should not smoke, he got really nervous and he did not enjoy it so he didnt do it again, other than that this is the safest drug for many many many problems and personally i think it is recreationally 1,000,000 times safer than alcohol (but alcohol is ok to drink every afternoon after work until you have addiction, liver failure, beat your wife, sleep with the neighbour or kill someone else in a car accident, it is ok, it’s legal, blame the 100,000 people that die a year compared to the 0 that died ever from marijuana, selectively blame the people not the poison)… where as the people wanting to smoke weed and watch t.v after work are such bad people because “it’s illegal” (in some states) messed up ! Might move to Canberra !

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Michael Jones September 10, 2012 at 3:16 am

How ridiculous! like pot is the only thing one can grow hydroponically.

We don’t have the same tests for people who wish to home brew do we?

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skip March 12, 2014 at 2:07 am

Totally agree Michael. The laws here regarding Cannabis are a joke. And we don’t seem to be going forward at all sadly. I’ve been watching a few new docos about Colorado and how much tax they are making for their new legal cannabis trade and it just astounds me that our people here aren’t pressuring the government here to do the same. We all need to do mass rallies and get the ball rolling somehow or it will never change for us.

We need legal weed here for so many reasons, one of the big reasons is to stop people getting records for a plant!

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cannabisisntcriminal October 4, 2012 at 5:50 am

Fantastic post! Our legal system is so obtuse and needlessly complex, I had no idea of some of the policies the states employed! I personally had no idea of the harshness of Queensland’s penalties… it is simply outrageous that someone could go to prison for two years for ten grams of cannabis. And even NSW’s ‘cautioning’ scheme is flawed, as if the cop doesn’t like you on your first offense, he can criminally charge you then and there!

I love the irony too though of the ACT having the most lenient/progressive laws regarding marijuana possession. They, the NT and SA are the only states with reasonable policies in my view.

I also found Mr Lenton’s views interesting… I agree with him that decriminalisation wont create higher usage rates (because cannabis will be smoked whether it is criminal or not, I think we all know that) but I disagree with him (and agree with you again) that regulation would work – I think Uruguay will be a great case study as (hopefully) they are about to pass a Bill that will make cannabis officially state-run.

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Jason Smith October 7, 2012 at 11:09 pm

Hey Cannabisisntcriminal, the 2 years jail for 10 grams of pot is for W.A, not QLD.

“QLD – possession of up to 50 grams of cannabis and you will be offered diversion. ”

“WA – WA Police Minister Rob Johnson says anyone caught with more than 10 grams of cannabis will face two years jail or a $2,000 fine.”

You probably just got a bit muddled up. :)

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Jason Smith October 7, 2012 at 2:17 am

Hi RC, thanks heaps for the info, very much appreciated. Are all the states and territories info on here up to date for this current day as far as you know? Is there anyway to try and push for change in a certain state (like NSW where I am for example) so to be able to grow 2 plants like the ACT or NT without fear of a criminal conviction? (and anonymously).

I find it really hard to understand how in certain places you are allowed to grow a plant or two outdoor on your property and then in other places (like NSW where I am) you can’t at all. I realise that the state government for each place makes these rules, but it just all seems so unfair. ACT – “The lowdown is possession of up to two non-hydroponic cannabis plants, or up to 25 grams of marijuana (cannabis plant material) receives a $100 fine with 60 days to pay instead of a criminal charge. Instead of paying the fine, the person may choose to attend a drug assessment and treatment program.”

In the ACT you can grow 2 plants and face a $100 fine and no criminal conviction, and in NSW you can’t grow any and can face a criminal conviction. ACT is like a speck of a place inside of a huge NSW. and in NT you can grow 2 as well.

This whole system stinks. Surely they could make a rule Aus wide where, hopefully every place is the same, and you can grow a couple of plants outdoor for personal use without fear of a criminal conviction?

I am like Steve who posted first, although I have never been caught, I really have to try hard to follow the rules and regulations as I don’t wish to have a permanent record (for me it’s about job prospects). It’s so frustrating, and ironic as you said RC that the place that has our Parliament has the most relaxed rules on pot.

Surely it would also be very financial viable for the Aus government to legalise and sell cannabis and related products under licence and gain massive amounts in tax revenue from it instead of the amounts spent on eradication and enforcement of these insane rules and regulations and making end users criminals (in some places) and ruining their chances at a better life because they grew a plant or had some plant material.

What type of mixed message are they sending to us where in some places its ok to posses pot, or grow it for little or next to no consequences and in other places it can really effect your life and future and make you a criminal.

Is it also true that in NSW for example, that if you are caught growing under 5 plants it would be a less of a fine or (hopefully not, sentence) than if it were 6-10, or over 20 plants? I mean is there any set rules on what would happen? Or is there too many factors to go into that, like previous convictions, the judge at the time, the weight of each plant (and things like this)?

Thanks for your time in putting this article online.

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Jason Smith October 7, 2012 at 2:27 am

ps) ‘OLD’, probably should be ‘QLD’, under the NSW section.

:)

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Responsible Choice October 9, 2012 at 12:07 am

Thanks for your comment Jason.

You sum up a lot of my views in what you say, particularly about regulated and taxed retail availability.

I am unsure about NSW law re plants, and I am no lawyer either so please don’t take my word or articles to constitute legal advice, but this page from 06 outlines hydro cultivation laws in NSW. http://www.health.nsw.gov.au/news/2006/20060203_00.html

Hope it helps, and thanks for your support!

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sadira October 12, 2012 at 6:21 am

Anybody familiar with the French revolution? If we can get enough people at the doors to parliament who want to legalise cannabis and do it peacfully how can they ignore it? Would they arrest 10-20 thousand people for smoking dope all at the same time? Could they possibly handle that many prisoners? At some point mate they gotta start runnin outta space. I’ve been arrested and it bloody hurts being in the back of a doggy van sittin on ur hands, but hey ill go through it again to legalise cannabis. Its natural- no more harmfull than tobacco or alcohol. Something that massive would never be able to go through court, get off scott free with cannabis being legalised.

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Ryan October 12, 2012 at 11:14 pm

I’ve often thought the same Sadira, trouble is getting that many people together for the one cause is a logistical nightmare. You can count me in if it ever does happen and I will be there with bells on, coz frankly I’m sick and tired of being made to feel like I’m some criminal because I choose cannabis.How can anybody respect a system that is so clearly corrupt and operates strictly for its own convenience, not our protection.
With all the real information available today, and all the lies being found out, those who believe it should be outlawed still are morons. These same morons are so heavily brainwashed they actually think they are doing the right thing when they report a cannabis offence.
Since when do we need to be protected from ourselves to such a degree that we can end up in jail for choosing what we put into our bodies?
I dont mean to offend anybody, but it seems like politicians are more concerned with legalizing homosexual relations than letting us choose what we smoke. WTF?? So I can smoke a pole but not a joint??
I have lost all respect for my legal system, criminal and civilian, as I have also been screwed by the family courts over a separate matter.
To serve and protect simply means serve and protect the system, not the people.

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Crazy2 January 5, 2013 at 1:56 am

Hi, I agree that getting enough people together to make any sort of impact would be a logistical nightmare. However we now live in a world where we have a “digital presence” and by emailing,texting,tweeting etc we can make every second email,tweet etc about the issues that concern us,This would work in virtually any scenario,from asking your local member for parliament their drug policy,and with what scientific basis they are basing their belief on, to asking big banks what reason they have for holding back interest rate cuts or how they have set their fees etc. If every second phone call tweet email etc that came into any of these businesses or organizations was regarding the same topic, then I think you will find we have a louder voice than we first thought

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Jess January 8, 2013 at 9:44 am

I think we all know the legality of pot here will change sometime, it’s just when.

Look at the USA now, with Washington and Colorado and their LEGAL cannabis and many other areas in the USA with medical cannabis and then look at Aus, none of that, we still cant buy weed legally, or smoke it, or use it even if we are dying from something like cancer. Most states here it is a criminal offence to grow a plant, hold an ounce or more, or have any smoking (pot) devices or utensils.

BUT…. Aus is apparently only like 10 years or so behind USA trends, so maybe if we are really lucky we might get some of those things here by 2023.. hah.

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Ben November 27, 2012 at 6:11 am

Hi i was wondering if anyone knew what would happen if i was caught growing 1-2 plants in nsw…btw im a minor (young offenders act)

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Ryan December 2, 2012 at 11:55 pm

Hey Ben,

A little advice if you do ever find yourself in court (I hope you dont!)-
I faced court a few years a go in SA and was surprised how many people really encourage the judge to be harsh with them. I watched about 8 people charged with cannabis offences all act like they know more (which they did) and be rude to the judge, with no signs of regret for their actions.
I cant tell you how stupid you can make yourself look by trying to argue with a judge.
We all know that the judges dont know squat about anything, but you have to pretend like they are right at least until you get the result you want and are out of the court. If this means looking sorry for yourself and explaining how this will effect your life negatively etc etc you are much less likely to get a harsh sentence!
With a bit of luck, and some common sense (which I lacked at that stage), you shouldn’t find yourself there in the first place!

Best of luck and remember the golden rules:
-no smell
-no sell
-no tell

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Charlotte November 29, 2012 at 10:34 pm

You should all be made to do a mandatory drug education course you clearly have no idea of the effects and proven link to mental illness.
If you could only see the lives ruined as I have seen you would realise that tougher penalties is way to go. The great thing is you are all in the minority the police and rest of decent responsible citizens will never let you make it legal. Go to nimbin when it’s not Mardi grass weekend and see the reality of a stoner town, sad selfish pathetic people that are constantly breeding innocent children who are ultimatley unloved and uncared for that welfare has to pay to raise. Seriously think of wider repercussions for those around you, and ask yourself what in your life is so bad you need to damage your brain to escape it? So sad….

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Responsible Choice December 3, 2012 at 2:58 pm

Conversely I would suggest you read some more of the info on our site Charlotte. Prohibition and criminalisation have done nothing to stop the use of any drugs, but have certainly served to ruin the lives of those unnecessarily caught up in the criminal justice system, and give massive money and power to drug dealers.

Cheers.

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Jason Smith December 3, 2012 at 6:26 pm

You should be made to do a mandatory ‘get a clue’ education course. You clearly have no idea how bad alcohol and tobacco are compared to cannabis. I have so many friends who smoke pot and have for along time and none have any problems, all live healthy satisfying lives with jobs and families. Go out in parts of Sydney on a Fri or Sat night and have a look at how dangerous alcohol is, it’s killing alot of people through the violence and liver disease and certain types of cancer. And tobacco well that kills so many it’s not funny. How many people has Cannabis killed again? Oh yeah that’s right zero, and it’s the most commonly used illegal drug in Australia and alot of the world.
So I guess you don’t drink or smoke then? Because that would be hypocritical.

You sound sad and selfish really not the people in Nimbin, where I have actually been a few times and met some really nice people, had lunch in a cafe, it was a nice time had by all. Beautiful area with wonderful people. My life isn’t bad at all? Why would you suggest someone who occasionally uses some pot has a bad life? Are you the full quid? Damage to my brain? My brain is fine thank you, I am often commented on at work at being the smart one, I however suggest maybe you should get yours checked, been drinking too much alcohol have you? That ruins brain cells.

So all your comments are basically selfish and wrong, you don’t like pot for some reason and you care what other people do in their spare time to relax and unwind? You sound like a real case. You need to ‘lighten’ up a bit and travel and enjoy life and let people do as they wish. Do you go and preach about how bad and addictive Oxy contin is and how it’s like heroin? Do you go and hassle adhd kids on ritalin who basically are using speed? Get off your high horse and stop worrying about others that you have no relationship to, it just makes you look like a complete idiot. Cannabis is a natural plant, used in moderation it is fine. Some people will always go too extreme and abuse a drug, look at alcoholics or people dying from cancer who abused tobacco for too long or a meth head or a heroin addict, some people can use all these drugs and still be fine, some get hooked, that’s life, same with any drug.

You are so misinformed Charlotte, it is quite funny. It’s not our problem you have some issues with cannabis. It’s not going to stop me eating it. That’s right I eat it in cookies and cakes, very rarely, but that’s what I like to do occasionally.

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Ryan December 3, 2012 at 11:39 pm

You clearly have no idea charlotte.
Harsher laws DO NOTHING TO CURB DRUG USE. They increase it. fact.
You should probably take the time to do some proper research before coming on here making and yourself look like a moron.
And a minority? Hardly, we out-number law enforcement easliy, how many cops do you think are in australia? Have you not been taking note of collorado’s laws being changed WITH THE SUPPORT OF EX-POLICE, DEA, JUDGES, PARENTS, etc etc!

Cannabis is not harmful to our brains, people like you are harmful to our brains.

So sad that you have such a weak mind, and believe everything that you have been told by the government about this. Show me one case of PROVEN BRAIN DAMAGE from cannabis! Perhaps the people you have know to have their lives ruined are already shit at life anyway, and using drugs tipped them over the edge. For most normal people, using cannabis does not ruin their lives, it actually improves it.
Its not about how bad “life” is without cannabis, its about how much better it is with it, and being that cannabis is non-toxic, unlike alcohol or even WATER, its harmful effects are non-existent. Watch a few doco’s before you come here pretending to know everything about it.
Unfortunately you seem to hang around people who clearly have no life skills and would probably have their lives ruined by anything that they cannot afford or handle. Poor you, and poor them – I feel no sympathy for those who wish to blame everything else apart from themselves for failure on any level.
By your attitude, we should put all alcohol drinkers through a recovery program also. Maybe we should also put all prescription medication users through rehab just in case they turn out to be junkies? Oh yeah, and we should put tobacco smokers up for manslaughter as passive smoking kills.
“stoners” are a generalised term used by the government and small minded people such as yourself to make us feel shunned and labelled, just like if I was to call you an obviously over-zealous christian who thinks that the problems of the world are all drug related. See how childish that was? Stop trying to generalise, you just make yourself look stupid.
How can you come on to a site like this which is clearly in favour, and has enormous amounts of information for you to be properly educated with, yet spew out the same rhetoric that has destroyed the fabric, the free thinking and intelligence of our society?
So sad that you need to come onto this supporting site and try to bring others down for your own selfish reasons, stay away and get a life you stupid woman.

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Rob February 1, 2013 at 7:51 am

Charlotte – You can start your research here…

http://www.the-scientist.com/?articles.view/articleNo/34110/title/Is-Cannabis-Really-That-Bad-/

Prof Nutt on BBC today…
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-21259499

If you do your research you will find ALCOHOL is the worst drug of them all… The US FDA are so full of themselves, they refuse to reclassify Cannabis (16 States decimalised + 2 LEGAL in the US though) as it has to have a medicinal value, and not be opened to abuse – how is alcohol legal then?

Maybe have a look at the movement (http://www.breakingthetaboo.info/) that is happening right now. Please educate yourself…drugs are so easy to find these days, you can even find them using your PC and a certain search engine! What would you prefer? Empowering the over $350 billion drug trade that is destroying Central America and is now infesting West Africa and funding extremist Islamists or treating it as a health issue and destroying this vast criminal network at the same time by legalising it?

PROHIBITION IS NOT WORKING!

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Rob February 1, 2013 at 8:53 am

* decimalised = Decriminalised

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Responsible Choice February 1, 2013 at 9:24 am

Thanks Rob.

I would suggest that research may even start here. There are many articles on this site alone citing much of Professor David Nutt’s research, there is even a link to his book on our home page, not to mention the Breaking the Taboo doco.

I totally agree with your comments.

Cheers.

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Rob February 1, 2013 at 2:38 pm

Responsible Choice – thank you for your reply. I do apologise for not reading your site thoroughly, I have been following the events from Breaking Taboo and the recent events from Davos – World Economic Forum – and found your site and this page, that I commented on.

You doing a good job!

Rob February 2, 2013 at 6:49 am

Interesting Article. Wow! The USA is led by a president who smoked cannabis as a teenager!

http://www.thenation.com/article/172538/who-will-legalize-pot-next

Slyman27 February 1, 2013 at 11:20 am

Dear Charlotte. You sound really “angry” at people that smoke pot. As for your “proven” results on damage to the body as a result of cannabis use. Scientists in the USA have posted on Web Md. lead researcher and psychiatrist says” We were some what surprised by our findings since there has been a controversy for some years on weather long term cannabis use causes brain damage” Also an analysis published in the July issue of the Journal of the International Neuropsychological Society cannabis use does not injure the brain. Neither short term use or long time habitual use. The only concrete evidence of damage to the body from cannabis smoking is conditions of the lungs. Just the same as smoking tobacco. Cannabis is used in many countries medically for the relief of symptoms from diseases such as Cancer, HIV/Aids , people who are wheelchair bound that are experiencing atrophy in their leg muscles and such causes so much pain as the muscles die. This rexalant and analgesic effect from cannabis is an absolute god send to some people who have allergies to certain medications. Please read up on the subject a little more before you start judging people whom you have never met before and do have a legitimate reason for using cannabis. May it be for pain relief , muscle spasms , increasing appetite in patients that otherwise wouldn’t eat and would waste away and eventually expire. Now THAT’S not fair.
I am one of those people who rely on cannabis for pain relief, muscle convulsions, and for appetite. I have extensive spinal injuries from a Motor Bike accident 20 years ago.
I am in constant acute pain fron seven compacted vertebrae in my lumbar,
three fractured vertabrae in the middle of my back, and two fractures in my neck. I have lived for 20years in constant pain. I WAS a practising Herion addict for 15 of those years. And now after counselling and my Doctors support I have been clean from Herion for Five years now. I am now on a program for opiate addiction which has seen me go onto the Methadone Programme approx 5 to six years ago. In relation to pain it has taken away probably 80% of my pain and I am able to deal with what is left.
Unfortunately I was diagnosed with HIV 6years ago due to a sexual assault. Since my health has deteriorated I have found myself without an appetite of any kind.
If I don’t make a conscious effort each day to eat. I don’t. I can go weeks without food and not get hungry at all. Ever. It is very frustrating and unsettling. If I didn’t smoke cannabis , I wouldn’t eat. Period. Cannabis gives me a slight appetite. Just enough to b able to stomach a meal without vomiting it back up 5 minutes after I have eaten.
You’ve got no idea what it is like. Pls try and be a little more understanding , as life
ISNT BLACK AND WHITE. it’s a whole range of colours and shades and variations.
I hold no animosity toward you. Just your views. They are a little old fashioned and uninformed. But that is ok. Everyone has to start somewhere. Peace to you and all you love. May you find all the answers you are looking for. You just have to keep an open mind.
Mr r. Qld.

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Michael Jones May 8, 2013 at 5:07 am

Here is an interesting page you might like, do you see on the right hand side where it says the entity responsible for the discovery that Cannabis acts as a neuro-protectant.

That’s right THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA DEPT OF HEALTH!

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Andre January 11, 2014 at 1:23 am

Charlotte, it’s the same with alcohol. Some people have a problem with it, others use it responsibly, some even develop schizophrenia from it. There are many, many people in professional and high-paying jobs that use marijuana, heck even a lot of cops smoke it – DO NOT dismiss that comment.
Society must give up these 1930′s attitudes towards cannabis being on some sort of par with heroin – it’s utterly ridiculous! Go and live with some herion addicts, I think you’ll change your tune pretty quickly! It’s also time that people against cannabis should probably try it, as the only way you can have a solid argument is to at least have tried it!
As for Nimbin, cannabis or not, they’re just a bunch of deadbeats and in my experience, it’s more of a heroin problem in that town. Those uncared-for children you speak of have junkie parents.
Time to join 2014 Charlotte…

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STOP THE MADNESS January 26, 2014 at 6:20 am

I am writing about my son I hope to shed some light on the journey he has walked. He is a hardworking honest young person who is running his own gym. He is very responsible and hardworking, he is a fully qualified personal trainer and has trained adults and youths for the local Police boys club in Thai boxing and is well respected in that arena.
He was born a happy child but into an emotionally dysfunctional family his biological father was an angry person who was very domineering over myself and the children. This had an effect on my son and we were forced to leave a very volatile situation.
My son had already been introduced to cannabis by a neighbours son , he was only 13 ( I did not know straight away ) but he would beg me to understand it relieved his emotional pain . Over the next few years we struggled with the lack of help that was available for helping youths with problems with cannabis. There was only a program in the city 100km away and the people running it said if we knew someone there and lied and said we lived in that city we would be able to get help. I even rang the police and asked for help and they couldn’t help with any information of where we could go. Years later he was before the court for possession of a bong etc. Still no help came. We went to the drug rehab place at as by instruction from the court and the vague councilor could only suggest anti depressants for him. I was furious and still to this day cannot believe that the only help offered was a much more dangerous synthetic drug that has been proven to bring on all sorts of problems including suicide and personality shut down. My son has self medicated himself with a natural drug with the same addictive qualities much like tobacco. I started to do research myself. That is when one can be faced with most astonishing truth that firstly the prohibition Of cannabis is slowly but surely being reversed country by country state by state and if we were living in the capital Canberra we would not be in a courtroom at all.
The law and the officers to implement the law was bought about in the early 1800’s by a man called Robert Peel … this law was to protect people from harming each other not to protect them from themselves and the world is waking up to the statistics that the alcohol and pharmaceutical drugs that are legal and readily available are causing not just danger death and destruction to individuals but to others and society around those people.
My son is not a criminal he is not a criminally minded person and what I see is our law society accommodates and treats with respect all other and much worse addictions, but frowns upon and looks at cannabis as a criminal offence because a long time ago SOMEONE said so. If there was a referendum on the legalization I am sure the people have come out of a place of ignorance and realise it should NOT be a crime.
I don’t smoke ANYTHING myself but I would choose to deal with a stoned person rather than a drunk person anyday. Somebody switched the tags somewhere. Who decided alcohol that maims and destroys peoples lives to be legal where cannabis makes people relax and maybe raid the fridge. Recent polls have revealed 70% of Australians want cannabis legalised and like me a high percentage of those would not use it but see that it is not a criminal act. I have apologised to my son for the years I was ignorant and not educated.
Here lies the irony if it is an illicit addictive drug as so said by the small minority that made this decision, then any person who finds themselves addicted to this drug should be treated with just as much respect as all other drug addicted people… and if indeed it is not as dangerous as whats been said then whats going on, why are young peoples lives being so dramatically affected by a law that is archaic in its origin and definitely in its implementing. Statistics show the crimes committed by people under the influence of alcohol everyday are horrendous and I see no evidence to cannabis users ever committing such crimes. Cannabis use does not give people the desire to use heavier drugs. The users of this drug in its natural state are more inclined to be relaxed and happy, not want to go and commit crimes. Of course there is criminals who smoke pot but there is alot more decent hardworking people who do and the deadbeats would be deadbeats no matter what they did. there was lazy criminals around along time before recreational use of cannabis became part of our society…

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skip January 26, 2014 at 11:50 pm

Hi Stop the madness, yeah I agree with just about everything you have said, except maybe this part -

“My son has self medicated himself with a natural drug with the same addictive qualities much like tobacco.”

I don’t (personally) think cannabis is anywhere near as addictive as tobacco (nicotine) but part of the problem is (I myself struggled with this for a decade) is that alot of us grew up being introduced to bongs and we mixed the cannabis with tobacco, thus making is quite a bit more addictive. I’ve heard it said nicotine is on par with being as addictive as heroin. And just as deadly, a tiny amount of pure nicotine injected would kill somebody and also if put on the skin would make someone very sick as well.

I found it hard to give up bongs and cannabis/tobacco, but I have done so now and if I ever use cannabis again I use a vaporiser or I eat the cannabis in cookies (cannabis made into canna butter and added to cookies when making then). This way you still get high but with hardly any possibility of addiction as there is no tobacco/nicotine in it. Smoking anything is obviously bad for us.

I think we will see the laws change here eventually, look at what is happening in America now, so many places have medicinal cannabis and with that loads of doctors will write the card for people with even basic issues, you can basically make something up and get a legal medicinal cannabis card apparently so they are easy to get. And now Colorado and Washington state have fully legalised cannabis, and Obama has come out and said he even thinks cannabis isnt that harmful and is on par with cigarettes and alcohol. Other states over there have recently expressed interest in legal cannabis as well, including Texas!

Basically the world follows USA in lots of things as they are the most powerful country in the world, so if everyone sees them lightening up on cannabis then surely lots of other places will slowly follow, hopefully Australia included.

A great place to read some articles is BlueLight, ‘drugs in the media’ -

http://www.bluelight.org/vb/forums/27-Drugs-in-the-Media

Have a look at some of the current articles and the comments, things are changing! It’s just a shame so many people had to get caught up in the stupid prohibition of a plant along the way, people should be able to use cannabis if they wont to, and as you said, if people like yourself don’t wont to use it then just dont use it! Easy.

Regards.

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Ben February 14, 2014 at 5:09 am

Wow and here I was thinking Alcohol, Tobacco & gambling where ruining life’s. In fact every time ive been in trouble it because of one of the above.
However you are right instead of drink driving & being violent my friends now eat them self’s out of house & home, & laugh a lot more, I can so see how much worse that is.
Oh & when I tore my ligament playing sport the fact that weed was the only thing that truly stopped the pain not the codeine that was given to me, yep I can see how bad it is.
Oh yeah I’m sure millions of people die long painful deaths every year from weed related diseases, Oh sorry my bad it was alcohol & tobacco that do that, was just confused as they are not drugs right ??
I think you need to get truly informed or get a brain scan for that mental illness you are referring to.

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Captain Jimbo November 30, 2012 at 10:59 am

I travel all over NSW for work (I’ve got a small liquor wholesale business). I might drive 12 hrs a day. I have a medical condition (malignant hypotension), that is helped by the odd bit of marijuana consumption. My GP even helped me buy my vapouriser pipe. After getting off the road my first instinct is to slam several beers and check out whatever town I’m in. Or I can can chill out in my hotel room and smoke a bit of weed. The next day after smoking I’m well refreshed after a good nights sleep and ready for another day on the road to god knows where. If I go out on the squirt, I’m well struggling the next day.
My main query is; we’re just about to open an office in Brisbane which means ill be flying into QLD quite regularly. How strict are the laws regarding bringing a couple of grams onto the plane for end of work day relaxation. I don’t have the time to pound the streets looking for a small amount of weed in an unfamiliar city. I have flown many times internationally and seen the changes on international flights. I have not flown domestically for more than a decade. How are the searches on domestic flights these days?

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Jason Smith December 3, 2012 at 6:32 pm

Well im not too sure myslef. A few G’s and all that will happen would be drug diversion program in QLD it says up above. But another idea might be to package it really well and send it to yourself through the mail. Either way for a few G’s I’d imagine all the authorities have seen it many times. It may just get confiscated.

Get your GP to write you a letter saying it helps with your condition maybe? That might help if there is any problems anywhere.

Good luck.

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Slyman27 February 1, 2013 at 11:32 am

Yo Captain Jimbo .
My advise is. Don’t do it. Travelling interstate with cannabis on your person can lead to a charge of smuggling across state borders. It’s one of the worst ones to be hit with in Qld. They have drug detection dogs at ALL Airports now. Even the small regional ones like the Gold Coast. Especially the smaller ones. There walk a dog up to the doors where the passengers are departing the plane into the airport. And they don’t miss anyone. Best way. Seal it up real good and small. Wrap it up in a balloon. Not s condom. A balloon. Wash the balloon with soap and warm water after sealing it up. Make sure your hands are super clean. Then stuff it in your balls. Lol. Cause if you get caught. Your fucked.

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Michael Jones February 12, 2013 at 9:12 am

Interstate couriers usually wont deal with members of the public but there are a few that operate up and down the east coast and out west, but that is kind of dicey, I don’t know…

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Torin February 14, 2014 at 11:41 am

don’t do it! QLD and WA are where they will throw the book at you the hardest.

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Jason Smith December 2, 2012 at 1:57 am

I’d imagine it depends on the judge. But I’d guess it wouldn’t be too bad, maybe some drug counselling or good behaviour or something and a fine?

Not sure about the record part, like if it stays with you after you turn 18 and if it comes up on police checks (for employment say).

Be good if someone could answer it but Im not sure if that’s possible.

It sux how in ACT nothing would happen, maybe a fine, but in NSW it could possibly tarnish the rest of your life.

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Jason Smith December 3, 2012 at 6:33 pm

^ That was supposed to be a reply to ‘Ben’… Cant seem to delete it to add it to the ‘reply’ to his comment. Oh well.

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dane January 9, 2013 at 1:07 pm

hey guys we have started a petition directed at Prime Minister Julia Gillard ; The honourable president and members of the Senate in the Parliament assembled asking them to Re-legalise ; regulate Cannabis for personal, medical; industry use in Australia. We have been steadily gathering support; with the help of the Australian HEMP party’s social presence; fan pages we are really gathering momentum. Any help in sharing the petition with others that support our cause would be greatly appreciated!

Join the revolution, A few voices in the wilderness is not enough to legitimise anything.

Pass the details of the petition on to everyone.

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dane January 9, 2013 at 1:07 pm
Jess January 9, 2013 at 10:51 pm

I signed it mate.. but –

“The honourable president” – She isn’t ‘president’ she is the Prime Minister :)

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Paul January 9, 2013 at 11:21 pm

Good article on CNN on why cannabis should be legal for adults -

http://edition.cnn.com/2013/01/09/opinion/nathan-legal-marijuana/?hpt=hp_t3

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Wlliam January 18, 2013 at 1:16 pm

Hello everyone,
I am so sad to live in Australia for the reason in which ignorance and no texture cannabis use is treated, by people that are making decisions with no experience. Nobody has a human right to tell anyone not to use a natural plant that is not killing brain cells, only intercepts them, and is basically the safest mild drug on earth.
I have lived in Spain for many years, cultivated, etc., and have extensive experience working in a seed company. Australians can be ignorant, not all of course, but there is such a mass of enforcing dickheads. Marihuana should be totally legal, should be selled bred to have different strengths and to suit different purposes, and all together we should learn from this plant that is so powerful educationally and exiting to many of us.
We can control this substance with education and making it normal. It’s available too all, illegal or not, and it has the power to give as an extensive range of effects. For different uses it is known to have incredible medical potential. It helps people with cancer, it helps them eat and keep healthy. It can help connect sick people with healthy people by opening dispensaries, and cafes, societies, etc…
Open grow shops/library/cafes that sell cannabis, expand the culture of cannabis in to our streets. It is good, safe and sound, and it is not wrong to smoke or vaporize cannabis, it is not wrong to grow a lot of cannabis, and whatever you want to do with it, it’s a plant and it’s safe stuff.
Mental ilness??? People are predisposed to it, cannabis makes you feel more meditative. Not good for the weak and young minded, especially if it’s strong cannabis. That’s why we should have different grades of it to buy for our safety, and knowing it’s clean and for people to grow it and make money for doing a wonderful job, for bringing us flavours.
Australia is a good country but needs to speak up and complain, too strict law against weed ruins people’s lives, MARIHUANA will save the world!!!! Everything in moderation is ok, Spain is crazy at smoking/growing/selling/coffee shops, everything, drinking on the streets is ok, it brings atmosphere and no dramas.
I dont want to live here anymore, Cannabis is my life. I owe it my life. I dont use much, but I have used it well for a long time and I try to turn anyone I can on to learning about it. People need to understand that it has power on our mind so we need to use it in moderation and with people that are experienced and can teach us the ways.
Make this normal, stop chasing it. Nobody has a right on it, it’s a gift from god.
All of you people against it dont blame it for your own mistakes. Learn to accept it’s you and that you have control and move on. I dont like anyone that abuses any substance. I can’t grow in Australia, fair enough. I have a kid and I’m supporting my partner to be a resident, but I want to help Australia on media newspapers start writing as soon as my English is better. Keep it up and stand up for cannabis always, don’t hide your opinion. Crush people with no experience.

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Jason Smith January 20, 2013 at 12:26 am

Hi William. Thanks for writing this, it is interesting to hear about Spain and cannabis. I have lived in Australia all my life and used cannabis for about 20 years now. I have been pretty lucky to not get in any trouble from the law, but that seems to be harder and harder these days. Here where I live the police do massive cannabis eradication sweeps around this time of the year, so growing any can be very risky, as it is really risking a criminal conviction. Even buying it can be hard, as if I get caught with more than half an ounce it can also be a criminal offence, and this can really effect my future job prospects. I have known friends that have been busted for growing and holding over an ounce.

Regarding your English, yes your spelling needs some work, and I would like to mention the idea of putting a ‘return’ or ‘enter’ after you have finished your paragraph, it just makes it much easier to read I think. These things will come to you over time I am sure.

Back on the topic of cannabis, it is a real shame we are so strict on it here in Aus, it is such a waste and so two faced for the government to make the police enforce some really stupid laws regarding cannabis, as you said it is a very low risk drug, and it is very sad that people here are allowed to buy and use as much alcohol and tobacco as they wont to, but pot is nearly zero tolerance, it’s a real shame. So many people I know smoke it, and they are wonderful people who work hard and don’t do any crime. To make it a crime to smoke cannabis is really shitty. We all know people on lots of alcohol are much more likely to be violent, and people who smoke alot of tobacco are much more likely to get cancer, but they still try and have a war on cannabis here.

It is really hard to not hide my opinion in public when speaking to alot of people, as some people are so against it and label people in a really bad way, alot of the time I find it is safer for me to keep my mouth shut than try and educate some person who has so much against cannabis. My reason for this is, especially with older people they can sometimes be quite nasty about it and think that you are a drug dealer and possibly ‘dob you in’ to the police if they think you might be involved with cannabis at all. It’s really sad and bad, it’s like we are still living laws of a long time ago, most of the polls and comments on alot of the mass media here support legalisation yet the government wont even try it at all, and so many people smoke it here in Aus (and the world) and there has never been a single reported death from it, unlike alcohol and tobacco. I find that really hard to accept that they allow so much alcohol and tobacco and wont let us grow or use cannabis at all just about.

Why waste so much money and resources trying to eradicate and stop the use of cannabis and putting people in front of courts when the governments here could be making serious money off the tax from selling it to anyone over 18 who wonts to buy it. We should be leading the world, not waiting to see what the USA does and follow them 10 years later. As it is now here alot of people and criminal gangs are making alot of money off cannabis and some of it is way too strong, as you mentioned different strains and potencies would be a great idea. If people do not wish to buy it or use it, they do not have to, but for everyone else who does enjoy it, we should be allowed to if we wont to.

Regards.

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Janine January 24, 2013 at 9:53 pm

I am a 60 year old grandmother and I agree totally with all the comments made about alcohol being much worse than cannabis, although I Believe that hydroponic marijuana can be very dangerous with long term use, Especially for the younger generation.
I am interested in finding out the legalities of making and providing cookies for those that have cancer?

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Jaosn January 25, 2013 at 6:03 pm

HI Janine, yes the hydro cannabis can be way too strong, especially for under 18′s (or even 21′s). And addictive too, well it felt like it to me when I used to smoke it, I craved it more.

What state or territory are you in? Like it says in the top of this article – “It is illegal to use, possess, grow or sell cannabis in Australia, but the penalties for cannabis offences are different in each state and territory.” – So it would not matter that you are doing it for someone with cancer, it is still illegal, but I think certain judges would be compassionate about it if it happened to get to court. To make cooking of a decent strength you need to use an ounce or more of the heads, but you could make a small amount with half an ounce maybe. You know how to do it? Make the canna butter, then use that in a cookie mix.

If for example you were in NSW, and you can get caught with upto half an ounce, and you have to buy it to make your cookies for the sick person, you could buy half an ounce at a time and make each one into cana butter, then use both lots to cook up 20 or so cookies (the size of a mans fist approx). Then if you happened to get caught with the pot it would be half an ounce and they are likely to give you a cannabis caution only, no arrest or charge.

Rgds.

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Janine January 25, 2013 at 11:21 pm

Thank you for your prompt reply, I am in NSW…. Fortunately I don’t have to grow or purchase the cannabis, it is supplied to me by a very nice person that knows what I use it for, I have been making cookies for over a year now and the feedback has been most impressive! Especially from a good freind of an unknown person (i have never met him)that has been diagnosed with terminal cancer, the doctors told him there was nothing else they can do for him… So after doing some research I decided to make some for him, after all he had nothing to lose by trying them.
I have since been informed by my friend that they have helped turn his life around immensely! He now works in the garden, appreciates life more and lives each precious day to the fullest, he also sleeps better and suffers less pain. Whereas before he was in great pain, could not sleep and suffered severe depression.
The cookies have also helped those that have become addicted to Hydro.
I admit that even now that I know the consequences, it will not deter me at all, because knowing I am assisting in making life a little easier for so many gives me the incentive to keep doing it.
And to those that condemn the users I just wish they could focus upon the benefits and do some research ….. Then they may just realise that the current laws are doing more harm than good and costing the taxpayers big time!

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Jaosn January 25, 2013 at 11:34 pm

That’s nice you do that for your friend. Keep it up :)

We have also helped friends who have wanted to use cannabis who have had cancer, sadly the two people have passed away now, but it made them feel alot better also, much more so than the OXY’s and other strong pharmaceutical drugs which had major side effects.

Cannabis is a wonderful medicine, it is such a shame we don’t even allow medicinal cannabis for very sick people here in Aus, I find that very hard to think about too much, I get a bit angry that people that are so sick can’t use what they like to help with their pain.

Rgds.

I’ve used cookies a bit, to stop smoking weed, and I enjoy it. A real different feeling.

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Janine January 26, 2013 at 9:19 pm

I spent most of the day yesterday doing more research on the medicinal benefits of using hemp oil not just for curing cancer but also many other diseases as well such as: diabetes, Alzheimer’s, dementia, and even aids.
I am now also very angry that this information has deliberately been suppressed from the general public since 1974!
One very brave man that has done extensive research on this matter is Rick Simpson from Canada…. For anyone interested in finding out more ….. U tube his name and you will come across all the information and proof that you need.
I purchased his DVD on eBay (99c) and I intend to copy and circulate it as freely as possible….. Which is what he wishes everyone to do…. Not one person involved in the making of this DVD were compensated for producing it.
It is called “Run from the cure – The Rick Simpson story”
They all feel so strongly about getting this very important message to each and everyone of us.

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adrian February 4, 2013 at 11:08 am

I’ve read most of these posts, and speak with people that love their pot and those that have only heard the negatives, or seen the negatives, maybe in family members or close friends.
It all depends on the person using and how addictive there personality is. Me – very addictive personality.
I myself was smoking heavy for over 10 years, it IS hard to stop, it makes sleeping hard for the first few weeks. That’s withdrawal, the hallmark of addiction.
I myself just got busted with heaps of plants and my stash of pot. Now I’ve got court and all that other stress to worry about.
Basically it CAN take control of your life, end up not wanting to basically live, get mates, girlfriends etc., again all depends on the person and their make up.
People using it for pain relief is a whole nother thing, no disrespect menat to you at all.
Now I’m on an even more addictive drug to help me get away from it, diazepam; 9 bucks 50 tablets.

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Responsible Choice February 4, 2013 at 12:32 pm

Hey Adrian,

Thanks for your thoughts. Just a quick one for your consideration; if you were smoking was tobacco ever a part of it? Obviously I only ask as tobacco is INCREDIBLY addictive and hard to give up. That’s not to say you didn’t develop a dependance on cannabis, but obviously tobacco in the mix is a completely different story, and doing anything heavily for 10 years is always going to be hard to stop, particularly when it is a substance that interacts intimately with one of the body’s most important systems (The Endocannabinoid System).

I am truly sorry that you have run in to legal problems due to our countries draconian cannabis laws, but that only reaffirms the fact that without those laws the negative impact of your cannabis use would’ve been radically less than it currently is. If your self-confessed heavy use was complemented with education and health support perhaps the outcome would’ve been very different. I am also sorry that you have been lead down the never-ending path of pharmaceutical intervention. That shit CAN kill you, and does kill thousands a year in our country alone, let alone the MASSIVELY addictive nature of them. They are all liver toxic, and despite their relatively cheap cost, more than likely due to PBS subsidies, they cost your body and our society considerably more than they are worth.

Is a transition from cannabis-induced sleep to regular sleep, combined with some general irritability really all that bad? Meditation can help you solve that fairly easily.

Let’s consider alcohol withdrawal or heroin withdrawal – we are talking seizures, delirium and possible death. Which one is a negligable ‘withdrawal’ symptom? Has anyone ever tried quitting sugar? Try it and see what you get from that and you may find it pails in comparison to quitting even heavy cannabis use, bearing in mind that most bread, sauces, drinks, and pretty much every other common food is chock full of it.

I am sorry if it sounds like I am playing down your experience but I cannot be easily dissuaded from my view that we have been, and are being, systematically fooled in to believing cannabis is dangerous. In what way? In that if you have difficulty controlling your consumption it can cause havoc in your life? Again I have to site sugar and alcohol as being far more prone to havoc induction, and also the fact that some people have trouble controlling many aspects of their life and actions, not only their drug use. Know any 8 cup-a-day coffee drinkers? They’re at such a ridiculously high risk of mental health issues it isn’t even funny. But no one bats an eyelid. Know any gamblers? But mention cannabis, ah well then you are talking the hard shit.

Cannabis is NOT a hard drug, it is not a narcotic. I don’t give a fuck who says it is, and in fact if someone tells you that direct them to our site for some re-education. Propaganda is a hell of a thing.

Cheers

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Jason February 4, 2013 at 10:27 pm

Great reply Responsible Choice, and yeah I’m sorry to hear of your predicament Adrian. Responsible Choice summed it up very well in their reply, I’d just like to say I was a heavy cannabis smoker (mixed with tobacco) and after I moved away from friends and family I was forced to quit as I knew no one with it, it took a few months to get totally over it and yeah it was hard to adjust at first with sleepless nights and mood swings, but that was because I abused it, I smoked it several times a day, I think as RC says it was mostly because of mixing it with tobacco too. Now days I hardly use cannabis, but I am dependent on tobacco and alcohol, which harm and kill so many people, but yet it is so easy to buy anywhere just about. I’d rather just use cannabis personally, but I can’t do that because I cant get it and it’s too expensive for me to buy even if I could.

I find it really two faced of the government to allow us to easily buy as much alcohol and tobacco as we wont to, yet those substances kill so many, yet cannabis, a plant that is easy to grow and is just a plant, is so illegal and you aren’t allowed to legally buy it anywhere in Aus.

RC’s points about sugar and pharmaceuticals are very valid too, they also kill and addict alot of people, after reading that I am going to try and cut down my sugar intake as much as possible. I never gamble or take pharmaceuticals, I wont do either of them, I’d only take pharmaceuticals if I was in intense agony or forced to in hospital, I’ve seen alot of people addicted to strong pain meds and the way they can act very weirdly and unpredictably and have been totally addicted to them, often sweating and also saying they can’t sleep without them.

I hope it all goes OK, it must be very stressful being caught with so many plants, I wish our laws weren’t so strict on growing a bloody plant. It’s a joke. There’s so many worse things that are legal, like alcohol and tobacco and pharmaceuticals for a start.

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Michael Jones February 12, 2013 at 11:40 am

Don’t swap one addiction for another, if you need sleep aids get stilnox for a week knock you out!

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Jess February 12, 2013 at 7:16 pm

Stillnox is horrible! You can have have some very bad side effects from that stuff, people have died after taking stillnox and sleepwalking off balconies and such, not a good idea at all.

A balanced diet and lots of exercise is a much better idea Michael.

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Michael Jones February 13, 2013 at 1:15 pm

Yes it’s a hypnotic, someone died from coca cola too but you wouldn’t call it “dangerous” would you?

Your right, a balanced diet and exercise will help, but if he needs “help” to stop maybe the stop smoking pill could work instead?http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benzodiazepine_withdrawal_syndrome

I have had withdrawls from trammadol it was to say the least the most horrible experience I have ever had and I would not wish that on my worst enemy!

I had Spasms, Dilated Pupils, inability to walk or move, deep bone pain, runny nose and tears, vomiting, nausea, diarrhea, suicidal thoughts, anxiety, shakes, muscle pain, head ache like a vice crushing your head, blurred vision, mild hallucinations, that is just what I can remember it took three weeks in an air conditioned room with little food or sleep to even get to sleep without waking up screaming, and covered in my own shit!

I remember begging for someone to kill me, i am so glad no one did because I was afraid of being stuck like that for eternity, so many times I had the box of trammadol in my hand thinking just one will end this just one will end this and thankfully I never did take one.

Of course now I am on 6 forte a day for severe back and sciatic pain, unless i smoke, then it drops down to 1 or 2 if that.

It is my opinion based on my experiences.

Mick ~

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Brian February 4, 2013 at 4:46 pm

Cannabis is addictive because most people smoke it mixed with tobacco.
Tobacco is extremely addictive,
Cannabis is not addictive by itself,
Channel 2 in Australia put out a video on the plant, Indian Hemp, Its called the Billion Dollar Crop, It has nothing to do with the drug side of the plant, Just what its many uses are good for,
It is the most beneficial plant known to mankind, It can be used to make anything from, and it is totally biodegradeable, You can eat it, You can run a car on it, and its banned,
Idiots,
I have smoked Cannabis for over 45 years, and very heavily for quite a few years,, I am still alive for the simple fact I did smoke a lot of it at the time,
Cannabis has no harmfull effects on me what so ever,

I also happen to be a very highly skilled tradesman, There is nothing wrong with my brain, and I am also exceptionally fit,
I have great difficulty giving up smoking tobacco, But I can give up smoking cannabis any time I want to with out ill effects of any kind, Withdrawals ETC.

I am not a nice person if I drink alcohol, Severe violent aggression is one of its charming side effects on me, No, I dont drink alcohol,

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Michael Jones February 13, 2013 at 12:53 pm

I prefer Cannabis, If i drink i get a headache, no such problems the next day. no hang over no ill effects, and a great nights sleep.

I gave up smoking tobacco a few years ago and haven’t looked back, I prefer to smoke pure cannabis if at all, its a much cleaner high, and no palpitations from the tobacco.

I am willing to help with ANY study into cannabis use and long term pain management, or into long term use, our government in NSW is currently undertaking steps to “look into” medical MJ oh wait…. it happened?.. http://www.parliament.nsw.gov.au/prod/parlment/committee.nsf/0/7641E8D87AC53FB3CA257ABF00134E57

This is the part we really need to be careful about “plant to the manufacturing of pharmaceutical products consumed in nasal sprays, tablet or other forms.” because if they pass it for medicinal use were hemmed in to medical only and thus because big pharma has the $$ and the doctors in their pocket will win out meaning the only access we will have to cannabis is in tablet form for the terminally ill only.

Is that good enough, if we can grow roses and brew tea with them, we should be able to grow a few cannabis plants too!

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Bob February 6, 2013 at 7:46 am

Hi Responsible Choice, This section is one of the best on your site, I think you should maybe make it easier to find from the front page if possible, like a sub menu (or front page link) saying ‘Cannabis Laws in Oz’ or something. I found this section eventually, but since it’s buried into (previous) articles in the cannabis sub-menu it’s not easy to find if you are new to your site.

Just a suggestion. Love the site and all your contributions.

Thanks.

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Responsible Choice February 6, 2013 at 9:56 am

Hi Bob,

Thanks for the feedback> We are in the process of setting up a basic forum for the site, so people like yourself can find more easily what you are looking for and share thoughts and ideas freely.

Watch this space!

Cheers.

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Michael Jones February 12, 2013 at 11:42 am

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-11-23/nsw-inquiry-on-medical-use-of-marijuana/4387620

A step in a direction but isn’t full legalization better?

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Janine February 13, 2013 at 1:48 pm

To anyone here that is serious about helping to get cannabis legalised for medicinal purposes please do as I have done and put your submission in to “The inquiry into the medical use of cannabis”
http://australianhempparty.com/1148/inquiry-medical-cannabis
But hurry as it closes on the 15th of Feburary so you only have 24 hours left

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Brian February 13, 2013 at 3:21 pm

I have just entered a submission to this Enquiry as a private individual,

Asking for the decriminalisation and allowance to grow 2 or 3 plants for our own medical and personal use,

I do have a medical certificate for the use of Cannabis for my extreme violence, as it does take away and suppress my violence,

It would also take away the threat of being raided, prosecuted and given a criminal record,

I do obey the law, and am a responsible citizen, But the current Cannabis laws are just archaic and detrimental to the people in my situation,

Tobacco and alcohol are a sight more dangerous to health and well being than Cannabis will ever be,

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adrian February 18, 2013 at 1:16 am

Thanks for your replys to my above posts guys,
Yes I did mix with tabacco, do agree that was most of the problem
Well I’m all done with court and its all over. Had 35 plants cost me 1200 bucks
The police I must add dident realy get their facts right. They said I had hydroponics set up’s, both were in soil. 15 cm plants, most were SOG at around 6 cm. One of my vege plants was around 15 cm but wasent even in the light, not the strain I was going to use. Due to my own lazyness I should have thrown it out as well as the 3 ounces of the most terrable weed you would never smoke anyway. All in all 1200 bucks, I think I got out ok.
Again thanks for not roasting me in your replys.
Rum time.

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Fishmantas February 18, 2013 at 8:25 am

It is shocking that medicinal cannabis isn’t available in Australia.Plenty of drugs with shocking side effects are given to people with depression and phobias but a natural plant is illegal!? My wife Has been medicated by doctors for depression with the result of her becoming a zombie while on prescription drugs,she now smokes cannabis and it has a very uplifting effect and copes with life easily.(I don’t smoke as it just sends me to sleep now, but i used to enjoy it 30 years ago)The only problem is getting the stuff as we don’t grow it as we like to travel overseas and don’t wont a criminal record and be refused entry to a country.I am not even sure if I agree with it being legalized(just my thoughts,don’t get too upset over this)but it definitely should be decriminalized and any medicinal benefits should be fully utilized.It still amazes me the way it can have the opposite effects on one person compared to another,depending how the brain is wired up. Tony

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kerb March 19, 2013 at 12:47 pm

Yes, the law should be much much more defined. The federal government should step in and over write local government laws.
The law should say, drugs = bad = harsh penalty (huge fines/ jail time or caning like in Singapore).
No wishy washy you can have 2 plants if you are not dealing crap. You can continue to grow and take a risk, the decision is yours to take, but live with the consequences if you are caught. These blurred lines just make everyones life a whole lot more complicated.
This argument about proving that it harms people is a load of hogwash, whether it impacts a person directly or indirectly is besides the point. It impacts society as a whole and I as a tax payer having to fork out money to support druggies just doesn’t ride with me very well.
(disclaimer: Medical use is a different story)

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Rose March 20, 2013 at 8:20 am

“Yes, the law should be much much more defined. The federal government should step in and over write local government laws.”

^ That’s about the only part I agree with you about, the rest is bullshit, the federal government should step in and make it more lenient, no one has ever died off smoking cannabis, in the whole world!! EVER! And look at alcohol and tobacco, both have proven links to cancer and alcohol makes alot of people aggressive and they are both legal, if I wont to smoke cannabis in my own home I should be allowed to, it should be legalised! Like in Colorado and Washington, that movement is going to keep spreading all over the world, so no, it shouldn’t go back wards and get stricter like Singapore’s laws, too many people smoke it here and always will, so busting non-violent end users is pointless and a strain on the police and the courts and the legal system as a whole. Go have a whinge about prescription drugs, they do more damage to people than cannabis, killing thousands and addicting so many more, people fiend for those pain meds, cannabis is harmless in comparison.

You don’t like cannabis, that’s fine, you don’t have to use it. But don’t worry about what other people like to do in their own spare time, in their own houses.

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William March 21, 2013 at 11:57 am

Nobody has the human right to prohibit a natural product such as cannabis, especially when the risk of it is minor…
Including the use of hemp that is ignored in Australia but widly available and utilized by other smart cultures, it provides better paper and 40% more quantity than trees of a more durable and more recycling life. It takes weeks to grow not 10s of years, Fuel, clothing, rope, car safety materials, etc…oils very good for you such as seed extract oil, etc…
This proves what a gift it is and how much it has helped evolution in some cultures if you know anything about it…
We need to normalize this stupid war that will only make our culture benefit economically and allow to regulation of use in quantity and potency. We need to educate our culture, make it normal…
It’s no big deal, really people go through phases, say few years smoke alot but usually hit reality and slow down… it’s not dangerous if you use it in moderation. It is absolutely good for your emotions if it agrees with your attitude… and mind control, you need to learn from it. Learn to let it guide your emotions, and it makes you feel more. You will never have anything to teach this plant, but it has much to teach you…
It is very good for you to experience its effects in the right enviroment, and time, and in the right quantities and strain.
People that are against it are very closed as to what it is… it’s a Plant ok, and it’s natural.
That’s it… and by the way cannabis culture in Portugal, Chech republic, Holland, Marocco, India, California oaksterdam etc,… and more places is beautiful. It makes the population learn from nature without all the rubish and dark sides that come with it being illegal.

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William March 21, 2013 at 12:08 pm

Another thing Aussies should get involved in is the progressive Volcano culture of vaporizing, it’s very satisfiying and healthier.
Guys save your money and buy one, this is coming from me that doesn’t grow and doesn’t smoke much, but I fully sopport Cannabis. It’s my life, I’ve seen it help so many people, with the right education from legal cannabis clubs, dispensaries, federations or whatever you want to call them. It helps people eat good, helps people in many ways, but you need Strain and potency options for its effective use. It’s got many beneficious properties being studies and isolated; cbd, its turpine combination is astonishing, and many more benefits beeing discovered that are being treated very seriously. Basically a combination of remedies that will have future use in medicine… of course thc in big quantities is a bit dangerous. It can help someone beleive his own wrong perception of reality(recommendation if you are struggling with the use of strong csnnabis and feel freekish, slow down, get milder varieties, get in to a worth while relationship with a partner, family, job, study whatever; have a solid grip with reality, sports,etc,…
helps. And guys love life love and yourself, and respect cannabis, it’s a great tool..

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William March 21, 2013 at 12:42 pm

One more thing; wise and responsible cannabis users are not druggies, less nazis would be good too.
So many shit people on this island…

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Justin March 29, 2013 at 6:15 am

Hi,

I was wanting to know if anyone knows the penalties in nsw for cultivate, possess and deem supply . I was caught with 36 plants and 2477 grams of dry weed, and it is my first offence.
I’m 40 yrs old. Any info would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

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Responsible Choice March 29, 2013 at 6:58 am

Hey mate,

I’m no lawyer, but the current legal (as in cautionable) amount to possess in NSW is 15g…

I would say you’re looking at a pretty hefty consequence. Regardless I’ll put it out there on fb to see if someone can drop by with a better idea than I’ve got.

Good luck mate, and remember that Jury nullification is in fact a reality that can be used successfully in terms of unjust laws and their enforcement.

Cheers.

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jed March 29, 2013 at 7:00 am

Hi mate, it’s probably going to depend on the judge, but you are in a level over ‘for personal use (which I think is under 10 plants)’ I can’t find the link right now, but there is a .edu.au site that lists the levels for all illegal drugs including cannabis, it states the amounts for this and that level upto ‘commercial supply’ etc. I saw the link on bluelight.ru in the australian drug discussion forum, you might be able to ask for it on there.

I don’t know if anyone can tell you what the exact outcome for what you were caught with. Being your first offence I hope they go lenient, at a guess I would imagine you may get a suspended jail sentence, like for 3 years or something, and if you get done again for something in that time you might have to serve time. And a decent fine probably.

Hopefully they go lightly on you. As I said it probably depends on what the judge is like, some are dicks and some may go alot lighter. They probably weighed it all? And included stems and roots? And this may all be used in court, it’s a really shitty system in my opinion.

I hope it all goes ok. It’s shit you can get into so much trouble for growing plants and flowers. I wish I could find the table and link to all the ranges of amounts and plants etc, it includes all illegal drugs like lsd, xtc, speed etc as well. If you word it right and ask on bluelight im pretty sure someone will post it up for you.

Peace.

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Responsible Choice March 29, 2013 at 8:53 am
jed March 29, 2013 at 9:59 am

Thank you, that is the link. So Justins case is between small quantity (5 plants) and indictable quantity (50 plants). That may be a good thing for you Justin that you were not caught with over 50 plants.

But the dried weed you had (2477 g’s) seems to fall between indictable and commercial (cannabis leaf), so that may be a pretty bad thing on top of the plants, it just falls under the next category tho which is between commercial and large commercial quantity, if I am reading it all correctly.

You really need some decent legal help man. Hope you don’t get put away. Up date us if you can?

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justin March 30, 2013 at 12:05 am

thanks for taking the time to help me on this one, its a drummed up weight there would have been 2 oz’s at the most. i am seeing a solicitor next week i will let you no how it goes.

thanks again
justin the cannabis cultivator

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Janine March 30, 2013 at 12:17 am

Wishing you the best of luck Justin! Just out of interest did it happen to be for medicinal purposes?
I am part of a worldwide movement to demand the right to cultivate and use cannabis as it the most miraculous healing herb on the planet!

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Brian March 30, 2013 at 2:06 am

That 2247 G comes out at five Pounds, If I am correct in my calcs,

2247 Grams, divide by 28 and then divide by 16, Gives Five pounds, Thats a lot of Dope,

Thats Jail time in any ones language, Its a Commercial quantity,

I have never seen a pile that big, only on TV,
I did see a Table covered in it, 12 feet long and 4 feet wide, stacked a foot high loose in SA, many years ago, But that would not add up to a pound in weight,

Good party, No agro any where, And picked up my booze at the front door on my way home untouched, Very cheap party as it was all donated, SA you can grow your own plants, X 3, I believe,

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jed March 30, 2013 at 2:56 am

Yeah, nearly 5.5 pounds, or 87 ounces. I think that link above states it is between indictable and commercial quantity legally. First offence so who knows what the judge will dish out. Hopefully for Justin it is a suspended jail sentence and fine or something.

This article here on RC states that in SA it is – one non-hydroponic plant or cannabis smoking equipment leads to a fine from $50 to $150 with 60 days to pay it.

So, no, not 3 plants. It may have used to have been more. No place in OZ can you legally grow 3 outdoor plants anymore as far as I know.

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Brian March 30, 2013 at 3:06 am

Like I said, It was many many years ago, and the laws change constantly,
But thanks for that info,

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Paul April 17, 2013 at 1:48 am

I have been a regular user going on 20 years now.

As a regular user I didn’t think of the medical uses of this wonderful plant.

I have suffered from Epilepsy for over 28 years now, and after discussing with my Neurologist my nightly usage.

He explained to me that if we were in America, that he could give me a prescription that would permit me to openly buy Marijuana.

For Epilepsy there are several benefits from this wonderful herb.

Mainly my Insomnia, depression, & Anxiety.

People must realise that not everyone is smoking just for fun, that some of us use Marijuana for the medical benefits.

I also grow my own, I only grow 2 plants at a time hydroponically. For the simple reason of not wanting to contribute to the criminal element in our society.

I only wish to grow for myself, but with what is left over I would love to donate to the Cancer ward, or HIV/Aids sufferers.

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Janine April 20, 2013 at 11:19 pm

That’s a great idea Paul :) if only the governments would do the same thing with it when they bust commercial growers instead of “burning” it! (as they would like us to believe)

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sad sad person April 20, 2013 at 7:58 am

I just got busted growing 5 very small cannabis plants and a bong. I have to go to court on 7th next month. I’m not happy; I grow it for medical use. I broke my neck and it helps me sleep and stops my muscle spasms, well it helps and it’s not toxic like all man made medicine is. The laws need to change, this stuff cures cancer for god sake, but the goverment make too much money from busting you, me and your kids. I’m fed up!!

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Janine April 20, 2013 at 11:14 pm

I AGREE!! I suggest that before you appear in court, gather as much information and proof that you can about the medical uses of cannabis (plenty around on the net!)for example visit “Cannabis oil success stories”
Turn this around and use this as a platform for defending yourself and the millions of others using cannabis for medicinal purposes, getting wrongfully persecuted for using a herb that has been used for thousands of years!
Cannibis Chronology
2737 BC: Cannabis is referred to as a “superior” herb in the world’s first medical text, or pharmacopoeia, Shen Nung’s Pen Ts’ao, in China.

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Skip April 21, 2013 at 12:31 am

@sad sad person – That sux mate. You wont get too much tho I rekon, you are in the personal use range (Small quantity) so says the link up a bit further posted by RC which is -

http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/nsw/consol_act/dmata1985256/sch1.html

Go down to cannabis plants (other)….

It is such a waste of time this war on cannabis (and most illegal drugs really too)… It just worsens peoples lives and keeps tax free profit to whomever, people are always going to use drugs, so they may as well make them safe and regulated and take them out of the hands of criminal gangs and such (for the chemical ones) but for cannabis they should allow it 1) for sick people, anyone who gets the right doctors certificate, then they should also allow anyone to grow up to 5 plants themselves for personal use in your own home, then they should also sell and market both indoor and outdoor cannabis for sale eventually and make millions and millions (if not billions) of dollars on tax for this country instead of letting whoever gets away with it profit big time, as there will always be a market for it. They are doing it all wrong, and its sad to see.

This party needs 500 members before the end of the month, I hope they get the numbers, please look at it and feel free to join, it is free….Or you can do the $25 dollar part.

http://druglawreform.com.au

And the direct link to join up is -

http://druglawreform.com.au/join

Let us know how you go sad sad person.

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Janine April 21, 2013 at 5:19 am

Thanks Skip … I just joined!

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james May 1, 2013 at 7:34 am

Ok, I’ve read this site, but I’m left wondering is it illegal to have marijuana seeds? I know it’s illegal to grow them but is it illegal to have them and/or to import them? Say you bought seeds off the web, would they make it past customs in NSW???

Any info is welcome :)

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Skip May 1, 2013 at 9:33 pm

Hi James, yes it is illegal to have cannabis seeds. Or import them of course. Here’s a link -

http://au.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100502053232AA1VypW

Also I have read about people who have been busted in raids with seeds before.

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james May 2, 2013 at 2:31 am

thank you very much skip its just a shame i wanted to get some good seeds and grow for my nan and pop they are very old but owell nothing i can do i guess i will just have to keep looking at different ideas but again thank you just had to know.

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Skip May 2, 2013 at 2:49 am

No worries. I’ve wonted to grow to help sick relatives before, but didn’t want to risk getting busted.

The laws are a joke, I really hope one day it all changes, at the very least so that very ill and sick people can grow it and use it legally, but even that is a long shot as far as I can see here at this stage.

The government is really being stupid about it all, as they could make so much on tax from it if they sold it legally, and stop all the profits going tax free to whomever gets away with growing it on a larger scale. Not to mention they waste so much on eradication and policing it, they could be using that money and the police resources for real crime, ones of a sexual and violent nature, not people who grow plants! I’d much rather smoke cannabis than tobacco or drinking alcohol, but I can’t as I dont know many people around here and dont wont to risk growing it.

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james May 3, 2013 at 9:22 am

i am a strong believer in what you said skip about how the government could put the money into the real crimes. i hate tobacco my whole family smoke and my mother is very sick becuase of it but wont give it up and may dad so he can deal with this drinks very heavy. like more poeple per year die from tobacco and alcohol then cannabis isnt the death toll for cannabis per year zero?

taggerty May 3, 2013 at 10:16 am

“like more people per year die from tobacco and alcohol then cannabis isn’t the death toll for cannabis per year zero?”
You can’t really use that as an argument. We’re talking about ratios here. How many smokers and how many cannabis consumers are there? the ratios are unrealistic and thus you cannot make such a broad assumption about death rates. Anyway, smoking Cannabis has the same consequences of smoking tobacco. It still leads to cancers and i’m pretty sure a smoker has not stepped out in front of a car thinking that were being chased by a giant( a buddy of mine did, hallucinating he was)

My issue is, though soft drugs may not necessarily lead to hard drugs it is a way. Many people get addicted from there, and that is my biggest issue. The consequence to society and what has the society have to pay to support this habit. We already have to support drug addicts by setting up drug houses, supplying syringes and having full time staff to watch over them. This comes as a cost to society and i think there is a line to where a community has to stop this kind of support. This does not benefit society as a whole.

Given there are many out there that needs it for medicinal use and want a grey line to be drawn. I still think that there should be a solid line for this one. Simply growing it in your shed for private consumption will greatly minimize your risk. Just like it is illegal to J walk, just don’t get caught.

Before we bring Holland(Netherlands) as an example, having lived there, many dutch that i know don’t use. There is a maturity to the whole issue. Unfortunately, (as a generalization) Australia has a long way to go. Go out on a weekend in Australian and you would see decent weekdays men become ar5eh0le5, usually due to over consumption. We as a nation we have a problem of knowing when to STOP.

I’m not pointing fingers at anyone here, i am sure there are matured and sensible posters but there are just as many that aren’t. The question is… are you going to continue to give your hard earned money to the government to support drug issues are do you prefer the government make better changes to improve ALL Australians life style. I prefer the latter.

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Responsible Choice May 4, 2013 at 6:41 am

I’m sorry Taggerty, but you MUST do your research before coming on to a site like this with ridiculous generalisations, primarily based on what you think you know, or what propaganda you have absorbed re cannabis throughout your life. Smoking cannabis does NOT lead to cancer, and if you had browsed any other article than this on our site you probably would’ve come across evidence towards this. At the least I’d recommend you browse through the resources page.

Your assertion that we need to reduce harm reduction measures such as safe injecting rooms and health services for dependent users is archaic and problematic, as is the idea that cannabis use leads to harder drugs, otherwise known as the easily refutable ‘gateway’ theory. The cost of the War on Drugs to our society, let alone human civilisation as a whole, has been, and continues to be, absurd; whilst the costs of our minimal harm reduction measure are not even worth comparing they are so small.

There should be no need to ‘hide’ your ‘illegal’ activities for fear of getting caught, as the whole reasoning behind prohibition of cannabis is an absurd perversion of our basic human rights, not to mention the fact it flies in the face of the example of the abject failure of alcohol prohibition that history has offered us as an example.

Comparing alcohol and cannabis is useful only in the sense that we can easily see how alcohol is an incredibly dangerous drug for those around the user, as well as the user, whilst cannabis is not. To chuck in random references to cannabis related DUI accidents is simply unfounded, and again flies in the face of actual legitimate studies conducted recently in the U.S. I would like to reframe your final point like this:
Would you rather keep giving your hard earned cash to the government to waste on its failing and pointless drug war which cannot be won, whilst handing over your basic human rights to an increasing nanny-state; or would you prefer to regulate and control profits being made tax free by criminal cartels whilst reducing the ludicrous cost of law enforcement, and instead funnel tax revenue of cannabis regulation into education and health care services for the betterment of our society. I prefer the latter.

I would also encourage further posters to head to the forum to continue this discussion as the comments section has not been designed to field 100 odd comments. There is an Australian State Drug Law topic with a link to this article there.

Cheers.

Skip May 4, 2013 at 7:07 am

I’m not trying to argue, but I’d like to counter some of your points, I haven’t smoked any cannabis this year and didn’t smoke much last year either, but I ate some in cookies and got really stoned, a wonderful feeling, bliss, non-violent or agro, totally relaxed and creative. It was wonderful, shame it is illegal really. You don’t have to smoke cannabis to consume it, you can vaporise it and eat it, unlike tobacco. Alcohol has also been linked to throat cancer, doesn’t stop either of those 2 drugs being legal. Alcohol and tobacco obviously cause alot more social problems than cannabis with violence and cancer, and alot of people use cannabis even though it is illegal.

Ok some points -

“how many cannabis consumers are there?”

-World wide, I’d guess millions, and how many people have died directly from cannabis? Apparently 0 if you search through google it seems that this is true.

“We already have to support drug addicts by setting up drug houses, supplying syringes and having full time staff to watch over them.”

-This is a bad thing? I think it’s great, it’s called harm reduction, people will use drugs if they are legal or illegal, we may as well make them as safe as possible. Also alot of drug addicts are now legal drug addicts, alcohol and pharmaceutical drugs (including methadone) take oxy contin/codone for example, it’s a form of synthetic heroin as far as I know and is addicting and even killing quite alot of people, some who may have been legally prescribed the drug for pain but ended up abusing it more and more as it is a very addictive drug apparently, or say xanax which people are sometime prescribed for anxiety or sleeping issues, people often get addicted to it and fiend for it, thus becoming part of the drug addicts you mentioned. Cannabis can help with all those problems with much less danger, for major pain, for sleep, for anxiety, cannabis is a medicine for a reason, it’s an amazing drug/plant.

There are so many more dangerous and addictive drugs than cannabis, it seems crazy to not offer it for sale for anyone who wonts it who is over 18 and make tax for the government and country from its sale instead of keeping the money in the hands of whoever grows it (tax free) and sells it. Kind of like Colorado and Washington have now done, it’s been a while there now and it seems to be working fine.

The best thing for me would be for us as Australians to start with medicinal cannabis, for people with major pain issues who wont to use it, i’ve heard from several cancer patients in person and on the radio that cannabis works for them alot better than any pharmaceutical drugs do, less side effects and makes them feel better.

Doesn’t it seem odd to you to keep a medicine away from sick people? A natural medicine at that. A flower, and plant, part of nature. And remember they don’t have to smoke it, they can eat it with the same effects, i’m not aware of anyone who uses tobacco that does not smoke it, maybe i’ve heard of people that chew certain types in other countries, but that causes cancer too, the part that you mention about cannabis can cause cancer is just from smoking it, not from the drug, just the smoking of plant material. Afaik anyway.

Holland and portugal are good places to look at where a softer on drugs approach has been working, legalise certain drugs and the drug use sometimes goes down, just because drugs are legal doesn’t mean everyone will use them, it’s up to the person if they wish to buy it or obtain a prescription for it.

I’m pretty any ice/meth but I still think it should be legal to a point, maybe obtainable via a Dr’s prescription, then it is taxed and hopefully it will be alot cheaper so addicts dont have to use illegal dealers and mass producers and importers go out of business. The people who make ice and mdma illegally have to dump all their toxic left oversby products someplace and since they dont wont to be detected they dump it in forests and all sorts of horrible places, endangering people, animals and nature. It should all be left up to pharmaceutical companies and the cannabis to licensed growers who grow it for the government, with people allowed to grow a certain number of plants for personal use.

The war on drugs is a very expensive failure, drug use has not gown down, drugs are still everywhere, small time users are getting records that effect them for decades sometimes, it’s a huge waste on so many levels, it’s time for a change, and portugal seems to have the right idea to me.

Feel free to reply, i’m interested in what you think of my views on it all, thanks.

Janine May 2, 2013 at 3:36 am

I agree skip but it maybe not such a long shot …. Drug Law Reform got the members needed …. So now we will finally get a voice in parliament!

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Skip May 3, 2013 at 8:23 pm

@Janine – I am glad they got the numbers, so I can vote for them in Sept, and also maybe the sex party I think they have some decent plans too, I’d have to check if that’s the right one tho.

@james Sounds similar to lots of my family as well. Although my parents do smoke cannabis sometimes too, but the legality and price restricts this alot. Same with me as I said.

Yeah there has been 0 deaths from real cannabis afaik (worldwide, ever), some people will argue it has caused many deaths though with things like deadly road accidents from being stoned etc, but that to me is not a direct death from the drug, IE) the drug itself has not killed the person. Synthetic cannabis has reportedly killed many people already in it’s much shorter life, that’s something to stay away from in my books. Alcohol and tobacco have been responsible for probably millions of deaths worldwide, it’s pathetic we aren’t allowed to choose to buy cannabis if we are over 18, hell if you don’t like it, don’t buy it. All seems pretty simple to me. And it’d obviously a much safer drug than alcohol and tobacco. People will say it increases the risks of mental illness’s, but so does alcohol, people with mental illness’s probably should not take drugs at all, except the ones prescribed by a specialist.

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james May 7, 2013 at 10:00 am

thamk you skip i have read all the comments down from mine and wow i have learnt alot aswell from this site i will view this site every often i have enjoyed reading the posts and Janine im also glad the Drug Law Reform got the numbers they needed i will vote for them too maybe then i could help my nan and pop even just alittle bit :) :) :)

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Skip May 8, 2013 at 3:52 am

No probs James, hopefully we will all be able to grow some one day legally. Or buy it..

Here’s a cool vid I just came across -

‘Marijuana Australiana – The Documentary’

http://marijuanaaustraliana.com

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Vlad May 5, 2013 at 4:56 pm

Hey there All,

SO if you had a choice what state would you chose to live in?

As I’ve recentlyish gone through the whole going to court and all that jazz… {really I’m about 2 finish the 3yrs parole, Medicinal, could of gone very badly> was sent into the “high court” >> just alot of “crud/crap/horrid” , perso and “tools” } I am at my wits end with my location{QLD} and really want a change. . .{they’ve been back 3 times already to make more $$ for themselves.. .. As a pensioner I’m poor with bills*overdue*} preferably some where that “warm”{but i doubt that’ll happen, so a fire’ll do.. ..}

really dont want to be”near people” > but thats due to A road rage attack that I’m getten charged for… even though I was the 1 to be pit-maneuvered and chased into a suburb away and bashed… all because I “LEGALLY” overtook on an overtaking lane..

Also to keep myself sane/alive on top of ^^ ^^ I’m on Dothep.. .. just sayen {in the spirit of honesty and truth}

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Skip May 9, 2013 at 9:19 pm

Hi Vlad, check the rules and regulations for each place at the top of this page, but from what you said about it being warm the NT (Northern Territory) sounds like it might be your best bet at present, or possibly S.A….. NSW is just about as bad as QLD I’m sorry to say. And by the sounds of it you would hate the ACT as it gets soo cold there in winter.

rgds.

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Maxine May 9, 2013 at 8:07 am

Janine we hopefully will! I for one will back you in regards to making this legal.
If it hadn’t been for contacting a medical disease I probably wouldn’t be sitting here typing this hey?
I have had an illness where as I forbidded any type of form of drug use. It wasn’t until I came in contact with a very aggressive breast cancer, cutting the story short marijuana didn’t only take the pain away for awhile it also made me feel relaxed and wanting to feel positive and to know that it helped me to beat something that was literally taking my life! Thank you
Maxine

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Janine May 9, 2013 at 8:55 pm

Here is a link to a video about “Medical Mariujana considered in NSW”
http://ninem.sn/gGF52Dk
Good luck Maxine! I am no doctor, but there is plenty of evidence to prove the cannabis plant to be the most powerful healing herb on the planet!
But I advise eating it as edibles,as it should be ingested rather than smoked, either way it will provide relief for most symptoms…. But it is really the cannabis OIL…(not to be confused with hemp seed oil) that can actually cure cancers and many other diseases, and if it were taken as a supplement daily by everyone, we could eradicate cancer and other diseases completely!
Before Prohibition Cannabis was always used as a medicine, as well as many other uses,
I believe that all governments that disallow our choice of medicine are committing a crime against us all!

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Skip May 9, 2013 at 9:30 pm

Hi Janine, I guess it’s good that they are considering it, but it will be in a pill or spray form (Sativex) which isn’t really that great, from the stuff I have read online Sativex has some pretty mixed results, some people thought it was ok, and some said it was not good for them at all, where as real cannabis was. It’s a shame we have such a strict government, courts and police when it comes to cannabis, but for alot of other crimes they seem to go pretty soft, which perplexes me when I see news and current affairs shows letting violent criminals and sexual criminals off alot easier than drug dealers or makers.

I wish we could have it like so many places in America have it now where the chronically and terminally ill, and even just people in lots of pain can get a certificate and buy real cannabis, and oil. Or even better like Colorado or Washington where anyone over 18 could actually buy cannabis and money goes back to the government in the form of tax. The way they make it so illegal here is just letting (sometimes) criminals profit off it big time with no money going back into the country. If it were legal and for sale like alcohol or tobacco there is no pressure for people who do not want to use it to buy it. And I doubt that many more people would take it up just because it is legal, just the same people that use it whilst it is illegal anyway mostly. It all seems so wrong.

In America they are really strict on drugs as a general rule, but still they have allowed medicinal cannabis (real cannabis and oil) to be legal and also 2 states now with full legal cannabis which allows you to grow quite a few plants and purchase cannabis from shops legally which seems a bit odd since they were the ones who changed the world with their just say no crap and were so strict on it up till the last 5 or 10 yrs. They used to jail people for very small amounts, and in some places there they are still probably very strict on weed. I just hope there is so change here in Australia eventually, it’s all such a waste of money busting people for growing a plant and not making the money for the government from it’s sale when people will obviously continue to use it regardless of it legality.

Rgds.

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Janine May 9, 2013 at 9:44 pm

Yes Skip, the article below in section C describes the disadvantages of synthetic cannabis,
As usual man could never perfect what nature has already perfected!

Scientific proof of how cannabinoid (hemp) oil works on cancer cell(s).

1. Resulting from continuous abuse on the mind/body, through a diverse host of toxins (dietary/stress related factors), your body produces an uncontrolled cell. This cell aggregates into a tumor. (Cancerous cells are produced & eliminated naturally by the body’s defense mechanism).As the abuse continues, the immune system becomes compromised on eliminating these cancerous cells resulting in malignancy.

2. Your immune system spontaneously activates the endo-cannabinoid system which is a class of cell membrane receptors, which directly increase on the cancerous cell(s). These cell membrane receptors (cannabinoids) are activated by three major groups of ligands:

A. CANNABINOIDS PRODUCED BY THE HUMAN BODY.
The immune system triggers anandamide (neurotransmitter that signals from a neuron to a target cell). The anandamide mates with these receptors and stimulates the production of a chemical called ceramide. When ceramide is produced in the cancer cell it kills off the mitochondria,which is what produces the energy for the cell to live. So once the mitochondria are dead then the cell can no longer survive.

B. PLANT CANNABINOIDS SUCH AS THC, PRODUCED BY THE CANNABIS PLANT.
If you ingest cannabinoid supplement(s) (THC-Tetrahydrocannabinol) it’s job is to kill the cancer cell(s), that’s just what it does. Simply because these cannabinoids and the body’s own anandamide are the same, they act on these receptors, using the metabolic pathways that are built into the human system, they go into circulation and interact with the receptors producing the ceramide that destroys the mitochondria which starves the cell(s) and dies.
Note: The job of ceramide in the human body is to kill dead or dying cells. It senses that the cancer cell(s) is abnormal and needs to die and that’s why there is a direct increase in the number of receptors on the cancer cell(s).

C. SYNTHETIC CANNABINOIDS (such as Marinol)
MARINOL LACKS SEVERAL OF THE THERAPEUTIC COMPOUNDS AVAILABLE IN NATURAL CANNABIS.The active ingredient in Marinol, SYNTHETIC delta-9-tetrahyrdocannabinol, is an analogue of one such compound, THC. However, several other cannabinoids available in NATURAL cannabis [AS OPPOSED TO SYNTHETIC-WHERE THERE ARE NONE AT ALL-EVEN THE SYNTHETIC THC IS NOT NATURAL because you cannot synthetically/un-naturally put the electron spins, sub-atomic quarts together as nature does], in addition to naturally occurring terpenoids (oils) and flavonoids (phenols) — have also been clinically demonstrated to possess therapeutic utility. Many favour natural cannabis to Marinol because it includes these other therapeutically active cannabinoids. For example, cannabidol (CBD) is a non-psychoactive cannabinoid that has been clinically demonstrated to have analgesic, antispasmodic, anxiolytic, antipsychotic, anti-nausea, and anti-rheumatoid arthritic properties.

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Cannabis For Health May 12, 2013 at 11:08 pm

I fully support the legalisation of cannabis use for recreational, medicinal and commercial uses.

It is nature’s gift to us and it helps heal and support us in so many different ways. For any governing body to ban or control the use of cannabis is wrong and I believe it is our god given right to enjoy every aspect of this wonderous herb.

It has the power to create booming industries that will help our economy.

It has the power to heal us.

It has the power to relax and ease our minds and souls.

The herb was placed on this earth to benefit all of us and it is wrong to deny anyone of the right to enjoy all that it has to offer. We no longer live in the stone ages – support full legalisation and change the world!

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withheld May 26, 2013 at 1:49 am

The stupid thing about the ACT laws is that it’s too cold for the people who grow weed to do it outside most of the year lol It’s decriminalised, but only if you can figure out how to grow in a climate the plant isn’t suited for. Completly makes sense lol

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philip martin June 22, 2013 at 5:53 am

I have just been raided at 10.30 at night for possession of cannabis (inQld) 6 police officers armed with hand guns and tasers came to visit, my legal defence costs are $3366 and I am looking at fines of another $1000 or maybe jail time. I have committed no other crimes or caused any other disturbance and wonder why I have been victimised in this way.
If you smoke pot don’t consider moving to Qld.

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Skip June 22, 2013 at 11:40 pm

Hi Phillip, sorry to hear that, may I ask how much cannabis they found? And why they would raid you in such a hard way (guns and tasers etc)? I guess someone must have tipped them off, were you dealing or only personal use? Often I wonder if some nasty people just dob people into the police to think they are either doing the community some good service or something or are do it just because they dislike somebody or a jealous etc.

That’s really sad to hear, you weren’t growing at all? Why they do such raids for what I am guessing is small amounts of cannabis is pathetic, according to this site the laws on cannabis for QLD are -

“QLD – possession of up to 50 grams of cannabis and you will be offered diversion.”

So I am guessing you had quite alot more than 2 ounces? Reply if you have time and are subscribed to this thread, thanks.

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Andrew July 7, 2013 at 8:54 am

Thanks for the information about all this, I am just wondering, i live in QLD and have been caught by the police already (when i was 16) i got charged with possession and supply. Still smoking pot as an 18 year old, just wondering what the punishment would be if i was to be caught (not a dealer and never have over 7 grams on me)

Thanks, Andrew.

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Skip July 8, 2013 at 3:15 am

not alot if its under a quarter i’d imagine.

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Michael Jones July 8, 2013 at 11:31 pm

Guys we need to step up pressure to get Cannabis legalized NOW!

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Skip July 10, 2013 at 2:24 am

Yeah, this site has a poll right now ‘should cannabis be legalised?’ -

http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health-fitness/expert-calls-for-marijuana-to-be-legalised-to-reduce-harm-of-binge-drinking-in-teens/story-fneuzlbd-1226676714223

Go vote…! It’s a good article as well. “yes’ was way ahead when I voted, 83% I think it was.

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Brian July 11, 2013 at 12:36 am

NBC, This morning, I was shocked,
A woman in the USA was giving dope to her 10 year old child,
You dont give kids dope, Ever,

But this kid has had Epileptic fits all his short life, up to 200 seizures a day,
The woman has given her son 17 different types of medication, None worked,
In desperation she gave her son the dope another doctor prescribed for him.

Only because the different states of America have legalised Cannabis for medical reasons, she could actually try it,

From the first treatment, The Mother said it as an immediate improvement and noticeable from the first treatment,
The child no longer has seizures, For 9 months now,
The woman said it was nice to have her son Back from his debilitating disease,

It was a special low THC plant they used for him,

Other Doctors have got online and said it cant work, It hasnt been proven by the drug Authorities,
If they dont approve, Its a Hoax,

Just like Ulcer treatments years ago, The Doctor who invented the cure for Ulcers, an Aussie by the way, And got a Nobel peace prize for it as well.

He was ostracised and abused by nearly every doctor in the world, Classed as a Total Idiot and a blight on the medical profession,
Thanks to him, After 30 years of suffering with Duodenal ulcers, A months course of pills and I havent had ulcer pains in 20 odd years,

Its very nice to be pain free,

Asthma and smoking dont go together, But I did know a woman that smoked dope to aleviate her asthma breathing problems,

But if big drug companys cant make a big bundle out of it, It will stay illegal,

It all comes down to making money for the big companys,

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Skip July 11, 2013 at 1:29 am

Yeah I’ve read similar articles that young kinds with chronic illness or diseases that cannabis has worked wonders on.

“But if big drug companys cant make a big bundle out of it, It will stay illegal,”

- Have big drug companies in the USA profited off the legality of cannabis in Colorado and Washington? I’m not sure.

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Rusty July 14, 2013 at 5:01 am

Hey Guys!

Well after an extensive amount of reading (especially the comments in this article) I have a question, sorry that it’s so blunt, but can anyone tell me what the QLD penalties would be for importing seeds then growing plants (only 1 or 2 at a time)? I’m yet to ascertain the exact information.

My apologies if it’s repeated information but for the life of me I can’t find it.

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Rusty July 14, 2013 at 5:03 am

Also, I have to say I’m blown away by the heart of some people that they will risk such high penalties for the betterment of others. It’s certainly inspirational!

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Skip July 15, 2013 at 3:59 am

Hey Rusty, I’m no expert but I’ll give you my opinion (I watch media about busts alot) and truthfully, I hardly see anyone getting in trouble for importing seeds, but some people who get raided (sometimes) get additional charges for having seeds, the 1-2 plants would not be a big deal I would guess, but you would have to start with more than 2 plants if you were growing from seeds to get your 2 females. So you might start with 5 and hope for 2 females. If you got caught with the 5 small plants it is still in the personal range range I think, the worst you would get (with out priors) would be a fine and some behaviour bond bond or community service or drug diversion program or some such crap. I hardly ever read about anyone getting busted with 2 plants to be honest, but that doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen, maybe the media just doent report it, or the police or courts dont pass it on to the news papers or the police sites dont report on it. Anyway, small amounts like that would not get jail time or suspended jail time I would hope, but it is really up to the individual judge and how much other evidence they had on you, like say they though you were dealing as you had scales or some bagged up in grams or whatever. If you ever got caught, dont talk to the cops, just keep saying lawyer please and say nothing. Then hope for the best.

Good luck.

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Rusty July 18, 2013 at 1:56 am

Thanks a lot, Skip! I do appreciate the informative reply :)

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Brian July 18, 2013 at 12:25 am

Just Google, Cancer Cured with Cannabis, The American govt has had a Patent on a Cure for Cancer since 1974,
But wont release it, As they have Billions tied up in Chemotherapy, Which has as a side effect, Gives you Luekemia, and destroys your own cells, and stuffs your body,

Cannabis cures Cancer in days or weeks, with out any side effects, and does cure you,

It does not require expensive machinery, You take Cannabis orally,

The Govts and Pharmacutical companys should be held liable, as profits above health and safety is a disgusting practice that needs stamping out,

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shane July 18, 2013 at 1:23 am

Hey Brian, there are stories (articles) of cannabis helping with lots of different things, it’s an amazing plant.

In relation to it helping cure cancer the governments patent wont mean much when people are allowed to use it either medicinally or legally (like in Colorado or Washington now) and many other places allowed to use it medicinally in the US.

Read this guys story -

Councilman Credits Marijuana For Helping Put His Cancer In Remission

http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2013/05/02/councilman-credits-marijuana-for-helping-put-his-cancer-in-remission/

I just hope that we as Australians get access to legal and medicinal cannabis in the not too distant future. The things I have seen on youtube and in the media from our current politicians is not promising at all though, they seem to keep spewing out stuff about cannabis causing mental illness and say there is no chance of it becoming legal or even used medicinally here. Everyone who feels like it should follow these guys -
http://www.druglawreform.com.au and hope they can make some difference somehow.

It’s really sad and shocking, how can they keep saying these things with all the positive things about cannabis being so well known now and so many people using it and wanting to use it.

We all know alcohol and tobacco are way more harmful than cannabis, and yeah sure some people abuse cannabis just like some people abuse any drug, but that doesn’t mean it should be illegal. The part about it causing or can bring on mental illness is way less likely if a person doesn’t start using cannabis until after 18 and doesn’t have any underlying mental illness to start with. Which is how it would be if it were legal, they couldn’t buy it unless over 18, like with alcohol or tobacco currently.

I know alot of cannabis users and I don’t think anyone of them have mental illness as far as I know. The laws here are a joke. Cannabis dealers are sometimes getting harsher sentences than rapists or paedophiles or violent criminals, it’s all so wrong.

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Janine July 18, 2013 at 2:02 am

Well said Brian….A class action against the decision makers that led to prohibition!
I lost my father to small cell carcinoma cancer last month, he knew i had been researching medical cannabis way before he was diagnosed with it.
As soon as I heard, I made a batch of cookies for him and sent them to him ( my parents live about 900km away, then I made some cannabis oil that I took with me when I flew down to visit him…by then he had deteriorated so quickly and was unable to swallow… The oncologist was sitting there writing out a prescription for multiple drugs, when all of a sudden my father said “what about the mariujuana then?”
The oncologist ignored the comment and proceeded to rattle on about the prescription drugs.
So I decided to ask what his thoughts were about medical cannabis, I could tell he was not impressed … He just said “someone gave one of his patients a cookie once… And it made him hallucinate”
Well my father was also hallucinating NOT from cookies… But from the cocktail of drugs that he was prescribed!
My father died a few days later (only 3 weeks after being diagnosed)
As far as I am concerned, he should at least of had the right to choose his own medicine without feeling as though he was breaking the law!

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Brian July 18, 2013 at 2:15 am

I am so sorry for your loss, RIP, So Preventable,

The Doctor here that cured stomach ulcers, went through the same process, He was vilified by his Doctor, Peers, World wide,
He was a Crack Pot, Idiot, Off his head, And just dismissed out of hand,

But he did two things with his perserverance,

One, He cured my painfull 30 year ulcer pains, Totally, and in only a month,

Second, He won a Nobel Piece prize for his remarkable discovery,

But the common person must be educated to the benefits of Cannabis,
Instead of the DRUG IS BAD, syndrome,

Education is the key to it all, Once people realize its benefits, and not the Govt’s Anti B/S,

The govt will have no other option than to listen to the people,

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bradley November 5, 2013 at 3:29 am

and that is the truth they government puts these laws in and they don’t even abide by them they think they are second to god wich is so wrong who died and made them king and queen they want us to obey their every command fuck that and marijuana helps my asthma more than my asthma inhalers do so figure that one out cracks me up the govt is all bullcrap always has been always will be until the people actually stand up to them peop[le must remember they are public servants not higher powers

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bradley November 5, 2013 at 3:30 am

that’s right govt I know for a fact that lawyers judges and parliament people smoke cannabis and have the proof to prove it hahahahahaha we will see we will see

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Hempy honeytongue July 30, 2013 at 1:37 pm

Thank you RC.. Great article, much appreciated..

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Torin August 17, 2013 at 8:29 am

Hey guys, my best mate and I (both Melbournians) have been travelling what we thought was this great country the past couple of months. We are in Queensland and are due to face court on Monday 19/08 (two days from post) because we were busted last week with 31g of bud (seeds and stems included in the weigh-up), a pipe, a vaporiser, a grinder, a pair of scissors (?), a pair of tweezers (?), a bottle opener (all suspected of being used with “dangerous drugs” as the charge states. wtf?), and some other bullshit. The cops were absolute manipulative assholes and cottoned on very early to the fact that we had no idea of our rights. We were thrown in the back of a divvy, had our prints and DNA taken and seriously spent about six hours with these dicks while they ruined our holiday. All we want to do now is go home but we have to wait here in this stingy state to wait for sentencing! Has anything similar happened to anyone before? Any idea what our penalty might be? I’m losing sleep over here, and not just because I can’t smoke my usual nightcap!

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skip August 19, 2013 at 1:17 am

Hey Torin, that sux mate! According to the info at the top of this thread it states -

QLD – possession of up to 50 grams of cannabis and you will be offered diversion. This is the only state in which diversion must be offered to a minor cannabis offender – elsewhere, it is up to the police officers whether or not they offer diversion or charge the offender. One diversion limit.

So i’m not sure why the assholes are making you goto court at all, since you only had 31g’s, it sounds like you just got a bunch of wanker cops, believe it or not, some cops are ok, but I sure have met my share of ones who are on power trips also. I think it is up to the police’s discretion if they want to charge you or give you the ‘diversion’. I’m not entirely sure what diversion means or is, but I gather it is diversion away from having to goto court and clog up the court with bullshit small amounts (like in your case) and I’d imagine it’s some kind of caution or drug counselling thing, but I dont really know. It would have been loads better if you got that though. But in any case I’m hoping you just get a smallish fine of some type, I can’t see that they’d be too concerned with 31 g’s and a pipe and a vap n grinder. It’s obviously for personal use. If you can see a lawyer, go and ask them what they think. What a bummer dude.

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skip August 19, 2013 at 1:19 am

Actually I said it is up to the police, but it states there that in QLD you MUST be offered diversion for amounts under 50 g’s, here where I am it’s up to the cops if they off you a caution, so i’m not sure why they havent followed that.

What bullshit, having to goto court over 31 g’s.

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skip August 19, 2013 at 10:53 pm

Not sure why my other comments haven’t shown up, but hopefully it goes ok for you Torin.

Up the top of this thread it states -

QLD – possession of up to 50 grams of cannabis and you will be offered diversion. This is the only state in which diversion must be offered to a minor cannabis offender – elsewhere, it is up to the police officers whether or not they offer diversion or charge the offender. One diversion limit.

So i’m not sure why you weren’t offered diversion since you were under the 50 g’s. Maybe because of the other items. Sure seems like a waste of time to send you to court over what is obviously a personal use amount of pot.

How did it go? Since yesterday was Monday and today is Tuesday. Update us if you can, cheers.

Regards.

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Torin August 27, 2013 at 8:16 am

Thanks for the input guys. Thankfully the court hearing is done and dusted, the final penalty was $500.00 plus $103.50 for appearing in court (load of shit fee).

To clear it up, QLD police are not obligated to offer DDAP (drug diversion program) if you are an interstate traveller. As it was our first offence and for such a small amount the magistrate gave us the minimum penalty and with no recorded conviction.

The case could not be transferred back to Victoria because each state has their own rules and regulations and QLD govt wanted our cash. We were lucky to get off as light as we did!

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Brian August 19, 2013 at 3:01 am

I dont like your chances, QLD is one of the worst Anti States,

Can you get the case transferred to Victoria,

The bottle opener is a charge on its own, Like all the rest, Thats 6 charges plus the dope,

It makes them look good, Druggies on 7 charges for Marijuana possession,

With That amount they might try Dealing as well as using, 9 Charges,

Interstate, They might try stitching you up with Trafficking, As well, Thats 10 Charges,

And just for carrying your normal smoke stash, Infuckingsane,

Its so much better to be absolutely pissed out of your brain and smashing things on Alcohol, Because its Legal,

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julian August 22, 2013 at 1:25 pm

This comment is in response to Charlottes dig at Nimbin, which I know was posted last year but i hope shes reads this. As a resident of Murwillumbah, a town near Nimbin and until around 15 years ago the end of the rail line from Sydney, I have seen first hand the heroin addicts given a one way ticket instead of prosecution. Police in Murwillumbah would come and tell the local “Townies” some of whom they knew where petty crims to make sure they left town. Giving them a green light to kick shit out of “smackies” who inevitably ended up in the accepting town of Nimbin. This was a deliberate attempt by the police force and government to introduce hard drugs into Nimbin and discredit the pro marijuana movement.

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Anon September 4, 2013 at 2:08 am

It’s funny how harshly NSW takes smoking weed when they still sell over the counter codeine at 400mg per pack, you can go around to 5 or 6 chemists and get as many boxes as you like and it takes not even 30 minutes to extract it.

Also visit a psychiatrist and tell them you have ADHD and you get a packet of speed a month, I’m 25 years old and never been diagnosed with ADHD and I had a prescription after just 1 visit!

In these times with synthetic THC and meth and other synthetics being sold at basically every sex shop I think it’s time for Australia to give up the fight and just legalise it before too many people die.

I’m not some crazy drug addict I was only listing these things as examples, except the ADHD pills I wanted to see if they helped with study.

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David Eglit September 4, 2013 at 8:17 am

I used to be a member of the Queensland Police service from Feb 90 to Sept 00 and for the last half of my career I involved heavily in the varying services surrounding Domestic Violence ranging from Station/Divisional Domestic Violence Officer to District Domestic Violence Officer. Funny enough I never had to report on or attend a Domestic Incident involving the evil cannabis sativa, but I could guarantee that alcohol would factor heavily in a large percentage of cases. AMAZING.

The other thing is I believe that the Americans give us $80,000,000 a year to fight the war on drugs. I have the answer to all of the regulation issues from commercial growers licences down to the average punter who wants to grow their own. The revenue raised would eclipse the money received from the people who have the worst economic and drug policies in the western world.

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skip September 5, 2013 at 1:47 am

Nice to hear David. Regarding the second paragraph of your post, the part about you have the answer to the regulation issue with pot, would it work on a similar model to what Uruguay and the American states who have also legalised it (Colorado and Washington)?

We are wasting so much time and money on keeping cannabis illegal, when we should be profiting off it, not letting any billy bob, peter or paul or whoever make all the tax free cash from selling it, because there is and always will be a market for it, so why are we allowing anyone to make the tax free cash from it?

I’d use cannabis again for sure if I could buy it legally, I’ve never had any issues from using cannabis, and I’ve used it in the past for over 15 yrs, also i’ve never had any friends who have any issues with pot either. But alcohol, tobacco, pharmaceuticals and heroin or meth, I know or used to know a heap of people who have issues with all those substances, and even died. And 3 out of 5 of those substances are legal. Surely it’s time we started selling weed to anyone who wonts it that is over 18 or 21, it just seems stupid to keep going the way we have been, it’s obviously failing badly, there’s always weed around, i’d rather buy it legally tho personally. And not risk getting in trouble with the police for growing it or buying and using it. I hate the current laws and policies. I’m going to vote for this party or similar in the upcoming election -

http://www.druglawreform.com.au

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Brian September 5, 2013 at 4:08 am

Good to hear from an ex policeman on your personal views,

What people dont hear is that side of the Cannabis raids,

They were all stoned, sitting peacefully or laughing their heads off, No Violence any where,

Why did they get raided, Its illegal, Thats why, And now they are possibly criminals as well,

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Ryno September 12, 2013 at 7:32 am

Busted 7 years ago 4 grms 4months busted today one 4centimeter plant and bong
I was trying to b self sufficient I expect to be jailed again over this even though I’ve had no trouble in 7 years am a hard worker have a prolonged back injury and it’s only thing that helps pain. As I was a heroin addict but not a junky I’m not able to get any medication from doctors that will help as they assume I just want to get out of it, because of the stigma attached to that addiction even though I kept my morals the whole time. I live in QLD toowoomba have a child pay taxes support my family but for some reason the govt of this state thinks spending money to keep me in jail is better than me paying taxes and functioning as a
Productive member of society I’m 38 and as I too have researched why these unjust laws were put upon us it makes it very hard to follow an unjust law

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skip September 12, 2013 at 11:15 pm

Hi Ryno, what exactly do you mean by this -
“Busted 7 years ago 4 grms 4months busted today one 4centimeter plant and bong”

You were busted 7 years ago for 4 grams, and you got busted today with a 4 cm plant and a bong? Is that correct? And you expect to goto jail for that? That seems insane.

Couldn’t you get on a methadone programme?

We certainly have some really backward drug laws in this country, whilst other countries and states (over seas) are legalising it and have medicinal cannabis and have coffee shops selling pot and stuff, we have none of that and the government keeps pumping money into eradication and busting people, some with such small amounts, and there’s still always so much cannabis about, it’s obvious the current and past laws are not and have not worked at all. And in certain states here we have laws like in ACT and SA where you just get a fine or whatever if you are growing a few plants for personal use. QLD seems to be one of the worst states in Aus for cannabis use and or growing. It’s such a shame hey. I can’t believe the terminally or chronically ill aren’t even allowed to use cannabis to help with their pain in Aus. But people are allowed to buy as much alcohol or tobacco products as they like, both of which have no medicinal properties and are known to be very dangerous substances, killing and harming many millions of people worldwide. Ludicrous.

Hope you can get over it all mate and hopefully you dont have to goto jail for it.

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Ryno September 13, 2013 at 12:21 am

Well many years ago 2004 I think I was caught growing at home they weight root balls and everything so I had over 500 grms of weight which was supreme court as well I had heroin for personal use was jailed six months with 2 yrs suspended then two years later had changed my life only smoked a bit of pot and got raided as I did every six months and they found 4 grms for that I was jailed for four months even with glowing work references etc and now of corse I’m charged with “production of a dangerous drug” what a crock like I was in a evil dark laboratory cooking up death on a stick.I work very hard and do 90 HR fortnights I only smoke when i have time off.how would it serve community in any way to put me in jail it would cost more money than I can make in the same time I’m sure the general public at large cannot see the point in keeping people such as myself in jail. They send me to jail I sit around on my ass play table tennis cards socialize etc it’s actually not bad if u didnt have to live in pain as they grossly undermedicate and even refuse to properly medicate a person for the good order of the prison.I saw a 60 yr old man nearly die from methadone withdrawal in 98 his name was frank a lovely man but the pressure of the instant withdrawal sent him insane and I met him on intake b4 withdrawal and he was quite sharp and with it this is health problem and jails are grossly unequipped to deal with it. IMHO fines are and medical treatment/ guidance is the only way we are making career criminals out of good hearted Australians for no real reason. Also to touch on another point does anyone realize the actual cost of putting a person in jail it’s big money America has ahuge industry revolving around the incarcerated prisoners they have.the govt pays the jail provider to jail it’s citizen these are now mostly private company’s who in the course of generating extra business for themselves lobby to govt officials their agenda. Which of corse the more prisoners the more money they make don’t believe for one moment think it’s a non profit industry there is a lot of money to b made of people’s misery. That being said being ing in jail there are a large percentage that deserve to be there, I met some very violent men in there who were mixing with young impressionable guys it’s just sad these poor kids turn into aspiring armed robbers etc as they feel if I’m gonna be in jail for something I feel is right then I might as well be the best crim I can be as that’s all I have to aspire to. It’s very sad

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Brian September 13, 2013 at 12:39 am

Sad, But true,

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Brian September 13, 2013 at 12:35 am

USA Govt Patent, 6630507,

This means the USA Govt owns the patent for Cannabis, They know it works,
But wont release it, as they cant make money from some thing thats free,

Cannabis alters your immune system to recognize cancer and will remove the cancer from your body in days,

Proven Fact, But they cant make money out of it,

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bradley November 5, 2013 at 3:23 am

they hide everything they are the most corrupt country in the world heres a trick for cancer make ur body alkaline and not acidic cancer only grows in an acidic body it can never grow in an alkaline body…. marijuana has been used for centuries so why all the laws and bullcrap now as u said they cant make a dollar well I think that is crap to if they did as Holland done then they would make money the problem is they don’t wont to give anything for free…….. read my opinions down the page see what you think

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Ryno September 13, 2013 at 1:00 am

Why I think I’ll be jailed is there is ajudge up here that lost his children in separate instances under tragic circumstances involving drugs and alcohol and he does not look kindly apon me in90% of our encounters and I feel for the man having a child I can only imagine the pain and loss he goes through.Some people have a justified right to be angry about drugs don’t get me wrong but if the situation was different I think we would have a much better outcome for the country

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Brian September 16, 2013 at 3:48 am

You could make a complaint to the Bar Council,
That this Judge or Magistrate is biased against Drug offenders because of the Trauma’s the Judge has experienced in his own family,
Obscuring his Judgements, Fairly towards Drug Offenders, Use a few Precedents as example,
They dont know unless you tell them,

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Bert September 14, 2013 at 8:31 pm

As an avid smoker of the last 23years, I have seen more people die of other “legal” drugs (tobacco and alcohol),prescription medication than I have seen of anything else I have read all that has been said. I was diagnosed with multiple personality disorder at the age of 18. Alcohol brings on my personalities and bad things happen, where as if I smoke pot I live my life normally. If Australia could adapt to the way Colorado and Washington are would Australia be a better place to live. I lived in Queensland for over thirty years was busted twice first time was in 1990 (utensils & 30g) a thousand dollar fine and recorded conviction. Second time I got drug diversion program where you have to go and tell a book learned psychologist why it was that you smoke a bit of weed, yes I agree that it has to do with the mentality of each and every person that smoke, I know people that get violent(not me) because they don’t have any but they mixed with tobacco as well. I have found that not smoking marijuana is a lot easier than stopping cigarettes, as there are not as many side affects from doing so. I currently live in Western Australia and didn’t realize the laws here were so different. It is very appreciative to know that there are people’s here in oz that see the visual effects that smoking a bit of weed can do for a person
Thanks guys keep up the good work

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Murph September 16, 2013 at 12:17 am

Hey guys I am currently in the uk and I am moving to Perth
Next month.
I smoke weed regularly and want to continue smoking
When I get there..what would be the outcome if I got
Caught with a small amount when on a holiday working
visa (subclass 417)?

Thanks in advance and great page keep up the good work!!

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skip September 16, 2013 at 2:25 am

Hi Murph, hard to say, perth is one of the tougher states for weed I think, along with QLD…

The top of this article states -

* UPDATE: WA (Western Australia) – WA Police Minister Rob Johnson says anyone caught with more than 10 grams of cannabis will face two years jail or a $2,000 fine. He said those caught with fewer than 10 grams must attend a one-on-one counselling session. Apparently this is to be based on a similar system used in QLD (July 2011)

But for someone on a working visa, im not sure, im not qualified to answer. If it was a really small amount, like a few grams hopefully not much at all.

I wouldn’t worry about it too much, just come and suss it out and see if you can even score first, start with small amounts etc. Maybe see or phone a lawyer if you wont when you are here, I dont know. I doubt anyone will be able to give you an exact answer from here, it really depends on the cops and judge if you have to goto court if you were caught etc.

Peace.

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Ryno September 16, 2013 at 8:45 am

They have to offer Australian citizens diversion but I doubt they are obligated to offer to overseas guests that being said first offense small amount a kick up the bum and a fine would b all u would be looking at but they may be able to cancel visa if they feel the infraction was severe enough but I doubt u would get jail even after three separate instances of cannabis possession (small amount) as u have no record at all

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Murph September 16, 2013 at 10:39 am

Thanks alot for the feedback guys..I’m not planning on gettin caught lol
But just didnt want to get sent back to the uk if I did get caught..

Also was wondering if it would effect you in the future if I was going to
Get full reseidentsy?

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David Beams September 16, 2013 at 1:05 pm

I cant believe this junk. I have heard that hemp could take over as the biggest thing since sliced bread in tasmania except that marijuanna is illegal. Hemp is able to be grown in tasmania its legal with permit BUT the permits are fraught with restrictions 1 of which is you cant grow hemp in tasmania near a main road type of thing aka has to be out of the view of people…..Wierd. I dont know the specifics but this rule about growing hemp is because of the marijuanna restrictions placed on our society. Now I put it to everyone here that marijuana restriction holds back tasmanias hemp growing and i also put it to everyone here that the Tasmanian forrestry association might be pulling the strings behind the scenes in tasmania to keep marijuana illegal so it has a basic monopoly as the biggest export industry in tasmania wood chips!!!! Where if marijuanna was illegal the hemp restrictions of growing away from site would be revoked and then it could be grown in the same way as the forrestry industry grows acres and acres of new growth forrests. BUT QUICKER EVERY YEAR A NEW CROP OF HEMP PULP HEMP SEEDS ETC.

I personally have grown marijuana in the past and probably in the future. But i have never been open to any diversion as growing your own is bad here in tasmania. But apparently having under 5 grams of marijuana is diversionary. So dont get caught growing marijuana in tasmania IT IS BAD ive been caught twice as i recall but its getting to the point that even judges if there is or was no proof of selling to others the judges are reasonably leaniant on people.

But still the need to legalise this drug is there. I use it every now and then recreationally stuff the people who want it medically. If its available for recreational usage and legalised then the medical industry will take it and work with it as well along with doctors and pharmacists that will embrase marijuanna.

I wouldnt smoke marijuanna with papers or a bong if it were legal. I would buy a vaporiser and smoke it that way as very little if any tar and crap get in your lungs. Or alternatively i would make cookies or other edibles to eat but when something is DEEMED Illegal like marijuanna then your pushed to use it in a way that you are least likely to be caught with it.

So until its legalised here which may be 2 years or might be 20 years but the way america is going 10 years from now the entire country will be out of the daze that is prohibition and will embrase marijuana both medicianally and recreationally. Canada is getting close to recreational usage. in europe there is one country all drugs are legal but pushed is the rehabilitation and all fines are used to rehab people and that is working well in those countrys why not here in Australia??????? WHY ARE WE DIFFERENT THEN OTHER PLACES WHY DO POLITICIANS IGNORE PEOPLE WHY CANT WE BE TAKEN TO THEM INSTEAD OF THE COURTS WHEN WE GET CAUGHT SMOKING A JOINT OR GROWING OUR WEED. Our politicians are hypocrits saying one drug that has caused no direct deaths is less able to be legalised then Alcohol or tobacco that are both directly linked to deaths of millions of people through addiction and usage of them?

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skip September 17, 2013 at 1:14 am

I doubt it will be made legal here in any less than 20 years. Sadly. Our government and politicians are all stupid and old and think ‘DRUGS ARE BAD’ even though they are happy to drink and smoke and use pharmaceuticals. We could have been leading the world, but instead we will lag behind and waste time, money and resources in the mean time keeping it illegal. It would make the government millions if not billions of revenue each year, but no they wont to keep wasting money keeping it illegal.

Sadly most of the older generation thinks pot is evil, so many of my parents generation and older tell me things like – ‘oh it’s probably those lazy dope smokers who cause most of the crime’ and ‘I wouldnt live in byron bay, there are too many drug addict cannabis users around there’ etc etc. It’s just stupid. Meanwhile in alcohol and tobacco and being more and more abused and causing more and more problems for users and society. Sad state of affairs. I use cannabis sometimes, not much, but if I do I use a vap or eat it in cookies.

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Brian October 4, 2013 at 7:00 am

David,
If the Govt lifted the Bans on Indian Hemp plants, (Cannabis) In a year, You would not have a timber wood chip industry in Tasmania, Or for that matter any where in Australia,

They would be using Hemp Fibre for Paper, Cotton would be replaced by Hemp Materials,
Paint, Timber Board from Hemp Fibre, Animal and human Feed, oil, fuel,
nearly every thing made from chemicals can be made from Hemp, and its fully biodegradable,
Across the North of OZ, they can get two crops a years, With out the Massive use of chemicals and pesticides they use on cotton, And its a better product than cotton, The original Levi Jeans were made from Hemp, Lasted 5 times the length of cotton,

Cannabis Oil, From the Sativa Strain, Makes your Immune System recognize Cancer as a Foreign body and will remove cancer from your body in days,

THE USA Govt has a Patent on it since 1974, They know it works,
They found out trying to disprove the benefits or other wise of Cannabis,

There is more money to be made from keeping it illegal, DEA, Police, Customs, Govt Depts, Prisons, More Prisons, The money is rolling in, Prisons are Private entitys, Bring on more prisoners, More Money,
Who cares if the whole population is branded a criminal by the courts, The Govt doesnt, They are raking in the dough,
Workers are Happy with all the construction of new prisons, Ancillary suppliers are more than happy with all the new income, Supplying the workers for the new prisons, Every ones making money,

2 Million Dope smokers in Australia, ???????????????? 23 Million People in Australia,

Rough Guess, 1/3 of the population is under 18 years old, 7.6 Million,

That leaves 15.4 million people over the age of 18, and 2 million of them are Dope smokers,

So we need accomodation for 2 million Dope smokers, Prisoners, That kills the drug problem,

Now what are we going to do with the army of drug enforcers with all the drug criminals locked up,

The cost of all those prisons and prisoners has really gotten out of hand, Taxes are Booming,

Unemployment is souring, People cant get a job with a criminal record, Familys are suffering,

2 Million Dope smokers,
That equates approximately to the amount of people in Australia who currently suffer from some sort of Depression, Mental Health Problems, Etc Etc, And are taking Medical Chemical Concoctions that do nothing to help the sufferer, and in a lot of cases makes the problems worse with the side effects of the Chemical Conglomerate that they pump into our bodies, Addiction for one, And the Chemical Companys are not sure what their chemicals actually do to your body,

Thalidomide was a good example, of this Horrendous mistake,

The ones that do seriously need help, And Not by being criminalised by a Stupid Govt,

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Tim September 17, 2013 at 8:02 am

does anyone know the amount of people required on a petition to make the government take notice of us smokers? i’ve heard petitions have been tried in the past but due to lack of networking most of us quiet types didn’t hear about it…
now there is a hemp party involved in politics, maybe if we all put our names to it any try to have our voice heard across our nation. unfortunately i’m a kiwi and as such classed as a permanent resident not a citizen so couldn’t vote… but wife and kids voted hemp party to support my habit ;) shit i may even consider becoming an aussie myself for the cause!!

let’s keep fighting them guys, comm has to prevail.

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Jayson September 27, 2013 at 10:56 pm

Awesome article and sensible! In Victoria i got raided again over two small half done indoor plants (15 and 25cm). Had them in the garage so not to involve the kids etc. 9 coppers in four vehicles (with a helicopter living on my roof for half a day two months earlier) turn up while i’m out, break in steal my babies and then decide their entry wasn’t good enough and break there way out of my garage! WTF! Caught up with the police later that day and explained to them that they had me mistaken for somebody that gives a shit about there cannabis prohibition laws. I wasn’t even born when they were stupidly thought up! I’d rather smoke weed and be pleasant than the alcoholic arsehole i was!!!!! I’m going to rot in jail over this rubbish as to me its legal. If alcohol is legal, cannabis is legal and it’s not even in the same weight division! I’m a single dad that might have to advertise for a live in nanny for x amount of time each year!!! LOL Come at me Justice Department!!!!!

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Bob McDonald October 3, 2013 at 12:32 am

I fought the law and the law sucks ! it’s pathetic a natural plant created by whoever , that does more spiritual good than harm ,opposed to Alcohol and violence ,man made poison ,ha not much comparison is there , our politicians are criminals paedophiles and freemasons ,who rape children ,sell hard drugs ,and generally try to ruin communities with their crap statute laws which are legal but not lawful,,interesting to note to that there are more police being charged with drug offences ,and child sex offences ,WTF how many bikies do you know who rape kids and cover it up, ? I know none ,but heaps of police are being charged with it ?
Pot is ok , heroin and ice and amphetamines are shit ,as injecting anything ,you become a useless grovelling junkie scum , and how many people do you see smoke a joint then want to bash someone ,with pot only it does not happen unless the person is already a physco ,so wake up dumb ass corrupt lowlife paedophile enabling Politicians ,wake up and legalise pot ,at least for medical purposes , oh I have a headache and a sire foot ! Great story too thanks 7 different laws in Australia what a joke !

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skip October 4, 2013 at 12:01 am

Hi Bob, Yeah the laws suck, and there are certainly alot of bad people around from all walks of life. Just a few things tho, and this is my opinion only, but injecting some drugs is not all bad, for example insulin, my mother injects it everyday, and I have never injected any drug personally and dont know anyone who does inject illegal drugs, but heroin for example isn’t such a bad drug as far as I have read, it is from the poppy as you know, and the reason some people tun into junkies or even OD and die is because they can’t get the drug and sometimes turn to crime to try and obtain it. People also die from it alot because the doses and purity is not set. Another example is oxy contin and the like, people take it all the time for severe pain and some people abuse it, apparently it is very similar to heroin, people become addicted to that also and abuse it, but with heroin, it’s not pre packaged and a set dose and purity like the oxy pill which makes it far more dangerous because of varying strength and quality, sometimes adulterants are used and people inject go knows what thinking it is heroin. Apparently heroin isnt so bad on the body or mind, far less damaging than alcohol. Even for people who have used it for man years, the health issues are created because it is illegal, the stuff thats in it and the varying doses and also because it is sometimes hard for addicts to get clean needles. Imagine if it was hard for people who drink alot of alcohol to get clean sterilised glasses and bottles to drink out of and the alcohol was often contaminated.

Meth or ice is obviously a bad drug for the community, but again there is drugs like ADHD drugs like ritalin etc that are pretty much the same but in a pill, and in a pre packaged set dose and without adulterants, made in a clean pharmaceutical environment. My point is that all drugs, even cocaine and lsd as well, they are all not so harmful if they are pure and set doses, so the strength is not varying, so people wont OD as much and bad toxic adulterants are not used in the making. The other thing with keeping drugs like xtc, meth, coke, lsd etc illegal is that the profits go back to cartels and crime gangs who produce them, tax free. Most of these drugs are often made with ‘whatever chemicals’ they can obtain, often not the real thing, so things like LSD for example is not often being substituted with cheaper research chemicals like nbome made in places like China for peanuts and sold off as LSD, when the effects of nbome are far more damaging and often contribute to deaths, like with Henry Kwan who jumped off his balcony in Syd and died. He thought he was having LSD and had nbome which is much more potent and was made to look like an lsd trip. All the common recreational drugs are now ‘mimicked’ even cannabis, with ‘synthetic cannabis’ which is chemicals sprayed onto herbs and is again more potent than real cannabis and has had many deaths and major health issues from its use, when it has been around for not very long really.

What I am trying to say is, all these drugs mentioned that are illegal are causing way more harm because of them being illegal and it’s just not working, they are all around still, more than ever and more dangerous than ever because the lines are much more blurred now with what’s really the drug and what is not, and the doses fluctuate and vary so much that more OD’s and deaths and serious harm is occurring than if they were legal and sold in places such as pharmacies with controls such as we now see with pseudo, where you would have to provide ID to buy them and be over 18.

I wouldn’t buy these drugs personally if they were legal, most of my friends wouldn’t I believe, and it takes away the profits from drug gangs and put tax back into the economy. It also reduces harm and also keeps kids away from them more, as it is some kids will go to buy pot from some people and those dealers may introduce them to speed or lsd or nbome or coke or xtc or whatever.

I hope you understand my point. Prohibition does not work. I’d like to see more legal drugs and more places like legal injecting centres. I do not believe drug use would rise significantly, if at all. But it would be safer to everyone, even the community.

First off I’d like to see cannabis legalised so the government can stop wasting time and money trying to enforce it and start making tax money that goes back into the economy, like Colorado and Washington are now doing in the USA. It is disgusting that even the chronically ill and terminally ill cannot use cannabis legally for their pain, but seriously it should be made legal for everybody to choose to use it if they wont to, like alcohol is. Then I’d like to see other drugs follow suit, MDMA, LSD, COCAINE, AMPHETAMINES.

Everyone should have the right to grow under 10 plants in their own house or property for personal use. But the dim wits in parliament dont think or even discuss it, oh its ok in Act to grow a couple or in SA, but not in QLD or NSW etc, how stupid are these laws.

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justin October 4, 2013 at 6:42 pm

Hi
Thanks to everyone who helped out with information on my predicament at the end of march i have been to court charged with deem supply,cultivate and possesion that was for growing 36 plants and having 2477 grams of dry weed. i booked myself in to counselling 5 weeks before the first court hearing and the judge must of thought i was remorseful for my actions so he agreed with my lawyer that i do the MERIT program for 12 weeks and report back in 6 with a progress report,on that day the police informed my lawyer that approx 1800 grams of the original weight had been “destroyed accidentaly” leaving around 800 grams which meant that the charge of deem supply had to be dropped.on that day the previous 2 cases were for aggravated assault on there spouses. both of which were hospitalised for there injuries.the result for those 2 fellas was a suspended sentence and a slap on the wrist. i was up next and the judges opinion was that growing 36 plants was a far more heinous crime than the battery of women and children.thankfully the police liked my dope as much as i did and had to have some hence my sentence was a 12 month good behaviour bond for the cultivation and a $1000 fine for possession so if your gonna grow it tell nobody and hide it well. good luck fellow growers and smokers peace out.
Justin the cannibis cultivator

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skip October 4, 2013 at 8:28 pm

That worked out pretty good then hey Justin.

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Janine October 4, 2013 at 8:39 pm

Thanks for the update Justin! … That just adds more proof about the stupidity and corruption of the legal system in Austalia… Or maybe the prisons are just too full of those that have been persecuted due to prohibition that there is not even enough room to lock up women bashes!!
Glad you got off lightly though … Well done!

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Health Advocate October 7, 2013 at 3:51 am

Should marijuana be legalised in Australia? The world? YES!

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skip October 7, 2013 at 5:15 am

Of course it ‘should’ be, but will it be? No. Not by the likes of Tony Abbott, Kevin Rudd or Julia Gillard etc, no way will it be, none of the members of their party wont to push for it, so we wont see it happen sadly.

I doubt we will see much change in the next decade at all in regards to cannabis in this country. Sadly.

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Red Baron October 8, 2013 at 7:49 am

Greetings everyone.
Read the whole page, I am grateful for your opinions and thoughts.

I found this link on simple cannabis laws, useful for South Aussies
http://www.lsc.sa.gov.au/dsh/ch12s06.php#Ch1254Se240479

With the exceptions of my parents, the first time a really became aware of the stigma and bs associated with marijuana was the first time I went to a psychiatrist.
I had been working a few years in a job that wasn’t suitable, intellectually I was bored and uninterested, my relationship of years was also all but over, add depression to the mix.
Few months of hopsital under ‘suicide watch’, followed by visit to old mate quack, and once I answered his question yes, i use marijuana, he was intent on blaming that, and only that, for my current mental state. Bovine feaces.
He proceeded to put me on some anti-depressants, and another pill ‘to help the anti-depressant work’ (wtf? a prescribed drug needs another to work? inefficiency, and higher cost to the patient).
Fast forward about a year, bit more maybe, and I’d left the job, left the relationship, and was helping out on the farm, in the shearing shed.
Took a break, looked out the window for, oh, couple breaths? Turned around, went back to work, my father said ‘Oh, you’re back with us.’
‘Huh?’
‘You’ve been looking out that window, deaf to us, for over 45 minutes.’
That happened the next day too, this time for 35 minutes.
I stopped taking the pills that day.
My question, argument, point of contention, whatever it can be called, my point of view, is that THAT situation is IMMENSELY more dangerous/concerning to me, and anyone else i might come across while ‘in a daze’. Imagine 45 minutes of mental absence on the highway, whilst driving on ‘legal’ medication. Then, you have the cost of the pills, which were about $120-150 a fortnight, the other side effects (they make you feel very, eh, whatever, not happy not sad just an unemotional, uninteractive unfeeling window, weight fluctations) and the very bad social status of someone that has to take anti-depressants (he’s got mental problems).
Handful of years on, I’ve now got my depression managed, my asthma isn’t anywhere near the problem it was when younger, my weight has settled to my most healthy weight ever of 85kg (used to be 120kg), and I actually have interests now.

I’m close to 30, been using cannabis half my life.
I have discovered my path, the point or existence for me.
Help End Marijuana Prohibition. Never had any interest, desire, motivational force as strong or as pure as this. I want to go to Uni, and fight the law.

In the words of Martin Juther King Jr. “There are two types of laws: just and unjust. I would be the first to advocate obeying just laws. One has not only a legal but a moral responsibility to obey just laws. Conversely, one has a moral responsibility to disobey unjust laws.”

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skip October 11, 2013 at 12:04 am

G’day red baron, Yeah the laws stink and so do some doctors or specialists who think cannabis is so bad. It’s not nearly as dangerous as alcohol or some medications/pharmaceuticals as you outlined. Good luck fighting the fight, there’s millions of us on your side.

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Janine October 12, 2013 at 8:09 pm

Excellent article “Red Baron”… I can so relate to your frustration regarding the current prohibition laws! … I too have never felt so determined and motivated in all my life about anything other than to want to put all I have into fighting these ridiculous laws
I will even risk getting locked up if necessary!…..because when they convict or lock up young people with cannabis related charges, they are immediately tagged as “druggies”… Whereas I am a respectable Mother of 2 and grandmother of 3 … I work, pay my bills on time, never hurt anyone or anything, never steal and I treat others with respect.
In other words, just like most cannabis users and growers… I am an ordinary law abiding citizen …. I AM NOT A CRIMINAL!!
For anyone interested in wanting to learn more about the dangers of “legal” pharmaceutical drugs this documentry is a must see
http://youtu.be/sLF-C3QErA4

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All Natural October 8, 2013 at 5:23 pm

http://australianhempparty.com/

I voted to legalize it last election. More people need to get involved. Just like the US, protest with may 20th (4th month 20th day = 420 smoke outs at public places). Keep getting involved. In reality I do not smoke it but have used it as a medicine for years. I had strep throat and chewed some good seedless and within 3 days it was completely gone, no joke. Love eating it, and having it on hand for illness, but it’s not worth going to jail for.

The hemp plant (scientific name: cannabis, slang: marijuana) is one of the many useful herbs “yielding seed after its kind” created and blessed by God on the third day of creation, “and God saw that it was good.” (Genesis 1:12) He gave hemp for people to use with our free will. http://www.equalrights4all.org/religious/bible.htm

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All Natural October 8, 2013 at 5:38 pm

http://www.jewishjournal.com/cover_story/article/green_gold_israel_sets_a_new_standard_for_legal_medical_marijuana_reasearch

Good article, except I do not think that a plant that is not able to kill you should be prohibited to be grown by anyone. Honestly I would grow this right with my other veggies, and mix it with most of them. Mmmm good ol potato mash with big green and purple nuggets lightly fried with a side of eggs…I could eat that every morning.

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justin October 11, 2013 at 8:45 am

just replying to all natural,
I thought 420 was the time of day that all of us cannabis smokers were united as one against the system the has harmed so many innocent people and families

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Rosana Miles October 15, 2013 at 2:28 am
Brian October 20, 2013 at 9:23 pm

Could you put that on Facebook, Rosana, I dont know how to,

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jg October 20, 2013 at 10:28 am

I have a pharmacy degree, but refuse to work as a pharmacist for moral reasons.

One of my first ever lectures was given by a professor of pharmacy, where he asked all of us “which drug is the best – the one that you take once and cures you, or the one that you take every day that controls the symptoms?”.

The entire class was made of young, smart, good natured people, and so we all said “The first one, that cures the patient in one dose.”. The professor replied “No – because if you cure everyone with the first dose, then why would we need pharmacists?”.

That was the day that my desire to be a pharmacist started to die. I finished the degree, but couldn’t go through with doing that kind of thing for my whole life.

In my estimation, the government, and drug companies, are so, so corrupt, that they will never, ever legalize it by choice. Sending them petitions, or protesting with a bunch of signs etc is a bit like asking a rabid dog to please not bite you. They will not do it. These are the sorts of people that will happily see every last one of us diseased, suffering, dying in needless wars, and using outdated technologies forever, so long as they themselves lead a good quality life.

I am saddened to see people saying things like “we need to do a medical study to prove that it works for this or that or the other”. There is no point. The government already knows that it works, that it is safe, and that it is not harmful. There is nothing that any of us here can ever teach them.

I believe that the only way to have cannabis legalized is for people to begin disobeying drug laws en masse, if not outright refusing to pay taxes to a government that doesn’t care about the population. We need juries refusing to convict cannabis offenders. We need all the highly functioning white collar professionals whose lives prove that cannabis is not debilitating, and that people can function at a high level while using it, to come out and admit it. (I know many high end professionals who use regularly. These people are surgeons, lawyers, clever entrepreneurs running massive businesses etc).

The longer we look at the government as if it has any credibility, the longer it will stay illegal. They have no credibility. Politicians are corrupt incompetents. We are destroying our land by fracking for oil, when we could grow our own oil on top of the land, and they do not care. We involve ourselves in foreign wars to secure oil supplies that are not needed, at great cost to our nation and soldiers, and they do not care. We poison ourselves with foods that are not fit to eat, and so long as their agricultural buddies are rich/pay them off, they do not care. We pay a high price for foreign materials like cotton, that are inferior, when we could grow a superior product, but so long as their textile buddies get rich, they do not care.

They make a big fuss about the unemployment rate, and the economy being a shambles, when they could legalize hemp to create so many jobs that we would all be flat out working, and they ignore it.

I believe that people underestimate how important the hemp issue is. If we continue on this path, waiting for corrupt politicians to suddenly give a toss, we will wake up with poisoned bodies, poisoned land, inescapable national debt, a horrible future for ourselves/our children, all so that a small group of people can own everything and have all the fun at our expense.

Funnily enough, I don’t even smoke weed – I simply understand that this issue is critical for the long term health of our society.

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skip October 21, 2013 at 12:18 am

Good comment JG. It sux, but that’s life.

I still can’t believe how quickly a lot of America has changed towards cannabis, with 2 states making it fully legal and so many more with medicinal cannabis that seems to be pretty easy to get a certificate for from what I have read.

Look at us, no states or territories have medical cannabis, and none even talk about making it legal. What a waste of money and resources.

Madness.

I hardly use cannabis much anymore personally, but I still really wont it legalised, I wont the choice to use it if I wont to, I’d much rather buy some cannabis than alcohol or tobacco, but currently it’s not easy for me to buy cannabis at all, so I don’t. But I would if I could legally, for sure.

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Brian October 21, 2013 at 1:05 am

Very well put and said, Its exactly what I have been trying to get across to people for years,
The cotton industry supports the herbicide and fertilizer and chemical industries It keeps them alive and making huge profits,

All of them will be wiped out with Hemp, Then what would the greedy few do,

Oil Fracking, Flames coming out of your freshwater taps,
USA, EPA has been by law prohibited from Investigating Oil Fracking in the USA,

Now, You cannot sue Monsanto by law if their products harm or kill people,

As long as they are making obscene amounts of money, They dont care about any one,

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STOP THE MADNESS January 26, 2014 at 6:44 am

Dear jg …… i wholeheartedly agree with your whole letter thank you ….yes we need to start the revolution … but we need to start an education plan to the masses who are still ignorant to the facts …people need to wake up to what a pack of lies they are being fed…like you I dont smoke myself but have many friends in all walks of life who do and still are amazing responsible people… perhaps a flyer …called DID YOU KNOW stating in point form facts and help people become educated. I want the madness to stop POT SMOKERS are not criminals.

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bradley November 5, 2013 at 3:03 am

i agree fully and on that alcohol and cigarettes do far more damaged to people and the community than marijuana has ever done… Marijuana has been used for centuries and centuries not just for medicinal purposes but for clothing,ropes,furniture hence why we have hemp shops so if the government doesn’t see that then im afraid they are a bunch of self centered egotistical idiots that follow the usa and its legislation.i feel as though marijuana shouldn’t even be subjected to being a drug when it has been used through out the ages come on government don’t you see the effects alcohol has on people more bad things happen when people are under the influence of this. and there is no records of marijuana doing any of this to people wen they undertake having a smoke of marijuana…..It just doesn’t happen.

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bradley November 5, 2013 at 3:18 am

The problem is this in my opinion…. The government a a bunch of self seething clowns WHY well arnt we all gods children???? so what gives them the right to think that they are second too god its well and truly WRONG…. they put laws in legislation for what….to make themselves fell better that they have announced a law that is wrong and unjustly they do this quite often and to add this a a binding for human kind to obey can anyone tell me what makes the government any higher than anybody else on the planet they are not and shouldn’t be all they do is abuse their power of authority…..they breach their own codes of conduct evry single day….they breach our right of privacy character and a being human and that is everyday so if anyone can answer me what the bloody hell makes them higher than anyone else and what the hell makes them second to god please email me id like to here ur thoughts and opinions……remember they are public servants not kings and queens that rule over us and that my friends is what is happening all over the world

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bradley November 5, 2013 at 3:19 am

and also way to go red baron because you are so right

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Red Baron November 8, 2013 at 12:26 am

Greetings again, peers, fellows, enthusiasts and otherwise ‘thinkers’.

JG, you are spot on. The way we are trying to get the attention of government is NOT working, hasn’t worked ever since they made it illegal. The only wasy that the situatino is going to change is if ACTIVISTS (people who are actively engaged in creating awareness and change) begin to make public and social stands in relation to the hypocrisy that frames the laws of Marijuana.
Jack Herer (Rhymes with terror) was an activist in the late 70′s in America, who used to stand on a soapbox and pass his voice to anyone who would hear him talk about the pro’s of cannabis, Australian’s as a whole NEED to identify that THE PEOPLE HAVE THE POWER.
Government is supposed to maintain the interests of its population, if the population refuse to bend to the dictator-ish stance of the draconian government, no other option can remain. They cannot fit every pot smoker in prison, physically or morally,
They could not afford to have EVERY person in Australia that imbibes the plant cannabis to admit it, and cease to work.
When the local policeman of the town issues fines to the ‘potheads’, gives the confiscated ‘drugs’ to his wife because SHE’S not a criminal for smoking it, and ignores the ‘crack junkies’ and pill poppers, that speaks volumes about what OUR government truly thinks of us.

“They say marijuana causes paranoia.”
“That’s because they put people in prision for smoking it.”
A self serving ‘myth’

Leads to other drugs –
After hearing all the things the authorites preach about weed, after a person tries it for the first time, they usually quickly discover the government lies about it, and wonder ‘What else have they lied about?” another self serving myth.

But can anyone remember that time that person died from too much Mary Warner?
Nope, me either.

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Red Baron November 8, 2013 at 12:46 am

Oh, the actual classification system for drugs is another farce…
Schedule I and Schedule II ratings.
To be a schedule I drug, meaning illegal, it has to have no therapeutic value, a high risk of addiction, and the potential to casue death. To avoid giving alcohol and cigarettes this rating is absurd, but to give it to cannabis just defies every bit of intelligence, logic, and rationality assocciated with COMMON SENSE.
The government wants you to drink yourself drunk, smoke yourself broke, and accepts you won’t benefit at all from it, but will punish you if you seek other less expensive, less harmful, more effective ways of dealing with the metaphorical defacation that weighs down your everyday.

The affliction that marijuana cures/treats/balances better that anything else in the world, is SPIRITUALITY, ironically the one thing politicians must rid themselves of before stepping into parliment.

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Sally November 30, 2013 at 11:43 pm

Hey, a couple of weeks ago I received a cannabis ‘caution’ in NSW and because I’m from the uk I don’t really know what this means. Is it a criminal record? All they took was my name and date of birth. (Sorry if this is really stupid of me but would someone please help me out) thanks guys.

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skip December 1, 2013 at 7:14 pm

Hi Sally, nothing to worry about. You are allowed 2 cautions before you goto court.

“NSW – possession of up to 15 grams of cannabis in NSW may receive a ‘caution’ from the police. 2 caution limit.”

So try and stay under the 15 grams. :) Have fun.

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Anna December 12, 2013 at 5:56 am

Hi all,

I was just wondering if you get a charge of drug possession on a road side RBT can you transfer the charge from QLD to the NT to be heard?

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Torin December 12, 2013 at 10:29 am

Hey Anna I sincerely doubt it unfortunately. I tried to have my hearing moved from QLD to Vic but unfortunately each state government has their own set of rules and regulations when it comes to sweet Mary Jane and apparently QLD are the stingiest of the lot! Why would QLD let the NT take in the revenue you’re about to fork out when they were the ones who busted you in the first place? I had to stay in QLD for a lot longer than was originally planned just for a fifteen minute court hearing!

I would talk to your legal aid and see if you can have your hearing brought forward. I was in desert QLD when I got busted and managed to have the hearing brought forward by a week if I agreed to plead guilty and be heard at a different courthouse. Hope that helps, you’re in a horrible situation I can tell from experience but good luck with it all and let us know how it pans out!

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Ben December 21, 2013 at 12:30 am

We as marijuana users need to stand up for our right as adult humans. Things need to change and 2014 is the year it needs to happen in aus. People power is the key, so we all need to work together to get the same result all us marijuana users and lovers alike want, and that’s not decriminalisation, that’s legalisation!!! So get out there on these forums and social media, Facebook and Twitter and whatever else, and let’s make this happen. No more sitting around crying, let’s all do something and make 2014 a year to love, remember and enjoy with legal weed. It can happen but it won’t happen if nothing gets out there and people don’t make the right moves. We need the prohibition to end!!! Australia will be so much better for it!!! It’s so stupid!!!

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skip December 21, 2013 at 1:36 am

Yeah it’d be great if it would (or could) happen, but do you really see the dim wits that run this country (the politicians) allowing legalised weed here? I’m sorry, but I cant see them allowing it to happen no matter how much we use social media etc. They wont even allow legal cannabis for the chronically and terminally ill, so if they wont allow or even talk about it much for people who are dying I don’t hold much hope for the rest of us.

Both the major parties just wont allow it to happen, as dumb as that is. They are losing so much money keeping it illegal, wasting so much money on eradication and enforcement when they could actually be making millions or probably billions off it’s taxed sale, and taking the profits out of the hands of criminal gangs who can grow whatever strains they like and add whatever nutrients they like as it is an unregulated black market. Also the police should not have to be worrying about busting people with an ounce or two or whatever of cannabis, to me that’s like busting people who have a case of beer or two, but the law says they have to do it.

If the government did the smart thing and started selling weed legally they could set the potency to a decent level so it’s not all super strong, which is no doubt where some of the health issues are coming from. And make HUGE amounts of revenue via tax, and make alot of new jobs as well in a booming industry.

But the idiots wont even talk about it in parliament, I dont know how those places in America did it (got legal medicinal and legal weed approved) but I sure wish we could do it here somehow. No doubt in 50 years or so we’ll all look back at this and think how stupid they were not to do it sooner and make more profit for the country. Instead they keep it illegal. DUMB DUMB AND DUMBER.

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Just Wondering Folk's. December 21, 2013 at 5:38 pm

In Perth, W.A. Late August,2013 my Friend was Caught and arrested for having approx-
186 Grams Of High Quality “Marijuana” and 0.02 Pts Of Methamphetamines in her possession.. She was charged with- “Intent To Sell and Supply” for the Dope and also charged with – “Possession Of A Prohibited Drug/ namely “Meth” for The 0.02 she got caught witrh!!)..

She does not have ANY other previous drug charges..
Does anyone know or could possibly give us an idea of what sort of gaol/sentence she may be looking at please…?
**(yes, she has a criminal lawyer that will be representing her in court, on her behalf soon)**
I guess we are just trying to get ALL feedback… Any would be very much appreciated and/or ANY “Genuine” replies… Thanks people… (= K @ T =)….

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skip December 22, 2013 at 12:11 am

Sounds like your friend is in some pretty deep shit.

I doubt any of us can predict what a judge will impose, but from reading at the top of this article WA (and maybe QLD) have probably the harshest laws regarding pot. 6.5 ounces is a fair bit. Obviously for sale/supply. The meth is obviously a personal use amount, but I’ve read they are going very hard in WA for anyone caught with meth as the place has a pretty big problem with meth and people making it in labs and such.

She may get lucky and get off with a suspended jail term, as it is her first drug charges, but has she been in trouble for anything before? That may be bought up. And I dont want to get hopes up or down, so I can’t really predict or imagine what will happen. Worst case jail, best case suspended or major fines.

The best idea is to get the best layer possible and go through it with them.

Good luck.

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Bob McDonald December 22, 2013 at 2:52 am

I think yes we should end the dumb laws against hemp , but we need to be positive not negative , and the unlawful government should not be taxing or having anything to do with it pot should be made legal just like grog , but pot is natural so no tax no gov just legalise pot full stop .

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Red Baron December 22, 2013 at 4:19 am

Skip,
Couldn:t agree more.
Outdated, nieve outlooks on laws that have been consistently failing ever since they were introduced.
Ever since the herb became illegal, use of it has increased.
In Holland, where it has been legal for years, use in people over 14 years old is at 5% of population. In Australia, where it has been illegal for years, the use in people over 14 years old is at a staggering 17%. We are second only to NZ in our usage. When you factor in the other nationalities that reside in Australia, (for example, only 0.05% of Japanese people have tried it) it becomes apparent that Australians want cannabis.

Final thought for today.
Does it not stand to reason, that as we are the country that has the highest percentage of cannabis users, we are also the country that has the best chance of making legal cannabis a very lucrative venture for our government?

Australias sons let us rejoice, for we are young and free…
In joyful strains, then let us sing…

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Bob McDonald December 23, 2013 at 7:24 am

No government , why should we make anything lucrative for the Government , why should they profit ? and sadly if you think we are young and free have a big session and study the real truth , which in turn is why pot is not being legalised ,and also the reason that many other bad things are happening in this once great country that many people are sadly clueless about ,ignorance to the truth is taking away all our god /creator given rights ,and this is what we must change , in the last 3 years I have had to admit to my self that my whole life has been a lie and deception , that I have been used ,but that I do have rights if and when I choose to use them ,1 example ,Statutes are not lawful , they are legal but not lawful meaning that if you know you have a person ,and you do not consent unless there is a victim there is no crime , and thankfully , many people are now looking hard at common law , legalese , freeman / strawman , and birth cert fraud and deception . The Guvmint are criminals and paedophiles .

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Red Baron December 27, 2013 at 7:37 am

Haha, yeah Bob, quoting the national anthem was tongue in cheek.

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Bob McDonald December 27, 2013 at 12:09 pm

ok cool , that’s a relief ! happy new year full of new legislation maybe ?

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Narayan kozeluh January 11, 2014 at 9:27 pm

I’m sixty eight years old and have smoked pot almost all my life, in 1968 in NSW i received six years for a matchbox full of grass, not possible you say, well I have to tell you, unless it was a dream, I served four years out of six in Bathurst prison.
My best friend Henk Poncin in the Netherlands is the Grandfather of legalisation of pot movement. Speaking to him on the phone after his trip to the United Nations, he informs me, “It won’t be long Narayan”
Perhaps if we got enough people to admit to using it, BIG EARS, and the rest of the idiots might think about changing the laws.
I hold no hope of this, so unless I grow my own I have to put up with the biker gangs selling me dope at ten times the price in order to further their criminal activities.
We rely on the dip sticks we vote into politics to look after us, what chance. This leads me to thinking we should ask out members before we vote how the feel about this subject.
I wrote an article called “The Tinny house” after sitting outside a house watching the sale of pot. At the end of the day, two off duty policemen, three Telstra workers in their Official van, one kindergarden teacher and a horde of others, in a continues stream arrived at the door. I live in a small town, Alice Springs NT where the police don’t even know the law themselves and continually break it themselves. AS if they have a mandate to disregard their own laws and procedures when it comes to pot.
My way of thinking is STAND UP AND BE SEEN AND HEARD AND BE NOT AFRAID.

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skip January 12, 2014 at 3:33 am

wow, 6 years for a small matchbox and you had to serve 4… That’s insane, I guess it’s come a bit of a way since then, it’s not so strict, but we still have very far to go to get to have fully legal weed like colorado and washington states in the US, they can buy, use and grow their own. Damn I wish it would happen here.

Thanks for your story.

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Bob McDonald January 27, 2014 at 5:53 am

So if statutes are not lawful ,except by the force of law with consent of the governed ,why are people going to court to face the paedophiles and criminals ? fact statutes are for employees of corporations or for anyone who consents , I do not x=consent to statutes , I am under common law , gods law , I do no harm , under statute law there must be a victim ,so who is the victim if you get busted smoking bongs or whatever , wake up it’s not only the hemp thing that has ben screwed over it’s all things to do with law and statutes , Do Not Consent to statutes they are total bullshit written up by paedophiles and traitors !

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Bob McDonald January 27, 2014 at 6:04 am

So if you get busted ,tell the cops you don’t consent to statutes , that wont make a difference to him as he is dumb and following illuminati orders ,but when it gets to court ,tell them before you go in you are standing under common law , do not say you understand to anything as if you do ,you are saying you agree to stand under the judge ,it’s called LEGALESE the language of the law society looks like English sounds like English but the words have 2 meanings , eg understand ….means stand under ,must ….means may ,,,summons …..means invitation ,, so don’t consent don’t understand , stand under common law the judge may walk out ,and the maxims of law state first to leave the battlefield is the loser ,if he walks out you are lawfully then in charge and can then dismiss your case , other maxims are ” let those who will be deceived be deceived , or those who do not claim their rights lose them ,common law rules ! statutes are shit enforced by freemasons and Zionists that are destroying our country, check legalese and freeman / strawman fuck the law it is shit !

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Nat February 2, 2014 at 7:39 am

Hi all, I smoked regularly for about 10 years (no cigarettes and only social alcohol drinking) and held a full time job in Tasmania. Then I was made redundant and had to move to Darwin for work. Because I had no contacts, I stopped smoking pot. In the past two years I have had two non-epileptic tonic clinic seizures and was hospitalized for three days on each occasion. I am told it’s due to stress and am now on FOUR different medications which do nothing to help. I am seeing a psychologist, and a psychiatrist, and have gained FOURTY KILOS in the past 18 months. I am utterly miserable and full of self loathing.

Does anyone know if there are doctors in Darwin that might help me get off these HORRIBLE medications and back onto pot?? God it’s so frustrating, the aborigines up here are KILLING themselves with alcohol and I’m not allowed to use pot!

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Kev March 8, 2014 at 6:21 am

I’m 62 yo. Suffered grand mal epileptic fits for 45 years and been medicated with numerous drugs. Some drugs stop iodine from being assimilated by the thyroid, others hurt liver and kidneys, most kill off the brain, so tumors and cancers have been my experience. Five years ago I started using cannabis (eating when I can get enough) smoking when I can’t get much. Fiver years now off chemist prescription drugs, zero fits, absolutely no hint of epilepsy since using cannabis. I have a lot of repairing to be done to my body of 45 years on prescription drugs, but feel cannabis is helping me big time. My doctor advised me to continue using cannabis, but warned me he can’t prescribe cannabis, nor can he appear in court to provide expert or supportive witness if I get caught. I am on my own here and have much fear about breaking the law to keep myself alive.

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pam March 15, 2014 at 2:40 pm

Hi i want to know can you buy seeds online and get them sent into Australia. Is it illegal to do so. If they were being sent for preservation reasons and for genetics.

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skip March 16, 2014 at 6:06 pm

HI, yes it is illegal. If you only order a smallish amount and they were detected at customs they would probably just seize them.

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Greg Brown March 21, 2014 at 3:19 pm

Hi all, just thought I’d share this with you- I found a website “ncpic.org” with some of the most misleading bollocks on it and dropped them a line as I have nothing to worry about.
Cheers

Your website is giving false information- in one of the last paragraphs it states “cannabis has not been approved for therapeutic use anywhere in the world”
Rubbish-it has been approved for years in some states in America as a fantastic therapeutic product for many ailments!
Instead of misleading some of the general population perhaps you could get your facts straight???
Cannabis is the most natural product one could ever use and other legal drugs such as alchohol and tobbaco are far far more damaging and yet still legal-a little backwards aren’t we?
How many people die each year from cigarette smoking and how many families are ripped apart by alchohol – both legal DRUGS?!
The paranoia about this drug just beggars belief when so many other legal drugs are so much more damaging to health, families and society in general!
I long for the day when this is finally made legal as is starting to happen now!
When was the last time the police had to be called to break up a stoners party?
Get real!
By all means get back to me if you wish as I don’t smoke cannabis anymore but did for over 33 years and am a skilled tradesperson have an immaculate home and am a responsible and hardworking citizen!
In fact consuming cannabis unleashes my creative thought and used to relax me after a hard days work-enjoy your wine with dinner tonight which yep you guessed it is a drug and not a good one at all.
Cannabis prevention indeed!
Regards Greg

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skip March 22, 2014 at 6:43 am

Hi Greg, I think you wrote the wrong web site, as ncpic.org has nothing to do with cannabis.

Rgds

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Greg March 22, 2014 at 8:43 am

Hi Skip,
Sorry, try
http://ncpic.org.au/

And guess what – the website splashpage I was refering to appears to have been taken down.

Interesting!

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skip March 23, 2014 at 12:45 am

No worries Greg.. I wonder if they read your comment here.. ?

That site is a waste of money and resources.

Reading the section about cannabis in the media –

“Study records first cannabis deaths” then it goes on to say –

‘Scientists in Germany believe that cannabis has caused fatal complications leading to the deaths of two men with existing health problems. The scientists say that these are isolated incidents, however people with heart problems should be aware that there are health risks associated with cannabis use.’

- So it may not have had anything to do with cannabis.

And how many people have been harmed or died from using cannabis in the world, then think how many people use or have used cannabis. Then think about how many people alcohol or tobacco or pharmaceutical drugs have harmed or killed.

Sites like that are bullshit. We all know cannabis used in moderation for people over 18 is very safe.

It’s about time we got out of the dark ages here in Australia regarding medical and even legal cannabis, prohibition hasnt worked at all, it’s still always around, the only different is that the government isnt making any money on it (tax) and that the levels of thc and cbd are not monitored/labelled, so people dont what they are buying or how potent it will be. Smart move government. Not.

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Greg Brown March 24, 2014 at 9:01 pm

Well pointed out Skip, when looking at how many people have used and still use cannabis – statistically IT IS far safer than playing Russian roulette with ones health smoking cigarettes etc in fact it would not even create the smallest blip on a comparison graph!

Starting smoking in high school due to peer group pressure and the way it was accepted as pretty much the norm “aside from school rules ofcourse” was the biggest mistake of my life, I have read reports and statements from many doctors and medical professionals in journals etc stating that it can be harder to quit than heroin.
The longest I’ve lasted off them yet is 5 months and even after that long at times they “cigarettes” is all I could think about, the reward pathways are hard to break along with the dependence on one of the worlds most addictive substances, nicotine.
Thanks to cigarettes being on full display behind the deli, supermarket, servo etc counter in prime position for so many years during my youth and up until only fairly recently “now at least they are covered” it is little wonder that so many are hooked on this insidious rubbish.
And now we have a government website making a fuss about smoking cannabis when so much damage is done from cigarettes, alchohol and as you mentioned some of the synthetic pharmaceutical rubbish is amazing!

skip March 24, 2014 at 9:25 pm

I’ve been off the tobacco for 4 months now and I do not crave it at all. I used to be a massive bong head and mixed my weed with tobacco and smoked it that way (for 20 odd yrs). Now what I do in the rare times I get some weed it use a vaporiser and vape it straight. I’m hoping no tobacco for me every again. It’s too addictive for me and bad for me, same with bongs, never again I hope. Vaporiser and cookies only for me.

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Nat March 23, 2014 at 8:14 am

Wow, Kev, your life story is so amazing. Just proves the medicinal benifits of cannabis as opposed to so-called ‘legal’ pharmaceutical poison. I am still on handfuls of prescribed drugs but am slowly weaning myself off them – they do nothing for me but make me fat and lethargic. People need to start realising that although pot is a ‘drug’, so is alcohol and cigarettes, as well as antidepressants, anipsychotics and ALL THAT SORT OF RUBBISH. I’m sick of listening to people who have never tried pot trying to tell me that I’m a druggie as they light up the last cigarette in their packet for the day and drink down their third pint of beer. Hypocrites.

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Paulo March 23, 2014 at 11:13 am

I found good info here. Thank you RC.

I just want to ask. What are the penalties for buying smoking pipe for minor in Western Australia? Is it a serious offence? Do you need a lawyer for this case?

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Responsible Choice March 23, 2014 at 12:51 pm

Hey Paulo,

As far as I know individuals in possession of a used smoking implement, who have no prior cannabis offences, will be required to attend a Cannabis Intervention Session (CIS) within 28 days or receive a cannabis conviction for the offence. That’s ripped straight from the NCPIC’s bullshit website (although good for a bit of legalese to be fair).

If that’s the case then it seems you’ll have to attend one of these ‘Intervention Sessions’ or cop a conviction. I would expect that the ‘used’ side of things is a big part of it, because ostensibly you could’ve bought it for tobacco use, which I would be arguing I did if there was no other incriminating evidence. If you were willing to attend said session I can’t see why a lawyer would be needed, but I would seek some sort of legal counsel just to be sure.

Good luck,
RC

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Paulo March 24, 2014 at 2:05 am

RC

Thanks for the quick response ,
i really appreciated it,

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